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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Morton<BR> <BR>My analysis of the statement/article is not that it necessarily supports US military action but it would support other forms of intervention. <BR>There are many here and elsewhere who support the <strong>uprising</strong> against the Assad Government, he is a Dictator worthy of being overthrown. Because many of us are opposed to US military intervention does not mean we support the Assad regime. Therefore there are many statements which may give the impression that a strike or action by western powers might be welcomed but that doesn't mean military action. <BR>It should be <strong>diplomatic</strong> action. See the below request to Pres. Obama, from Anna Galland of Moveon.org an organization supporting democrats. <BR> <BR> "We urge you to show real leadership in protecting the people of Syria with a more creative, effective, and prudent approach than military action. <BR><ul><li> Galvanize world leaders to demand a multilateral cease-fire </li><li> Arrange to evacuate people who choose to flee harm's way </li><li> Care for the evacuees </li><li> Assist with re-settlement once the civil war has ended <br> </li></ul><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: brussel@illinois.edu<br>To: carl@newsfromneptune.com<br>CC: karenaram@hotmail.com; peace-discuss@anti-war.net<br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Obama's goal in Syria & Greater Middle East<br>Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 03:42:12 +0000<br><br>
Did you overlook this, Carl? Here's a quote from that article:
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latest episode is merely one more horrific event in a conflict that has increasingly taken on </span><a style="font: 14px/18px Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; color: rgb(80, 146, 149); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: rgb(249, 247, 231);" href="http://www.genocidewatch.org/images/Syria_13_04_26_Alert_Update_Revised.pdf" target="_blank">genocidal</a><span style="font: 14px/18px Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; color: rgb(85, 85, 85); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: rgb(249, 247, 231);"> characteristics.
The case for action at first glance is indisputable. The UN now confirms a death toll over 100,000 people, the vast majority of whom have been killed by Assad’s troops. An estimated 4.5 million people have been displaced from their homes. International observers
have </span><a style="font: 14px/18px Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; color: rgb(80, 146, 149); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: rgb(249, 247, 231);" href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/15/syria-crisis-un-rights-idUSL6E8JFA3220120815" target="_blank">overwhelmingly
confirmed</a><span style="font: 14px/18px Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; color: rgb(85, 85, 85); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; background-color: rgb(249, 247, 231);"> Assad’s
complicity in the preponderance of war crimes and crimes against humanity against the Syrian people. The illegitimacy of his regime, and the legitimacy of the uprising, is clear."</span></div>
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<div>On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:30 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:</div>
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<div>I don't think the article "takes for granted Obama's assertions with respect to responsibility for the gas attack," viz.</div>
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"Experts are unanimous that the shocking footage of civilians, including children, suffering the effects of some sort of chemical attack, is real – but remain divided on whether it involved military-grade chemical weapons associated with Assad’s arsenal, or
were a more amateur concoction potentially linked to the rebels."<br>
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<div>The point of the article is the nature and goal of US policy in the region. It's not a matter of "keeping America safe from terrorism."</div>
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<div>The clearer that goal is, the better the chance of convincing Americans to oppose U.S. intervention in Syria. --CGE</div>
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<div>On Aug 31, 2013, at 7:07 PM, "Brussel, Morton K" <<a href="mailto:brussel@illinois.edu">brussel@illinois.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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It is unclear to me whether this article is for or against incipient U.S. intervention in Syria. Moreover, it contains several unverified assertions and takes for granted Obama's assertions with respect to responsibility for the gas attack, if that is what
it was. Which should render one suspicious.
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<div>On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Karen Aram wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I just read the same article on Alternet, excellent. It clearly spells out what the potential bombing of Syria is really about and for how long they have planned it.<br>
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