<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>This is James Fetzer's response to David Gehrig's post (below)</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> ----- Forwarded Message -----<br> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> James Fetzer <jfetzer@d.umn.edu><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Stephen Francis <stephenf1113@yahoo.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:49 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Fw: [OccupyCU] News Gazette article on 9/11 Truth Conference, Sept. 22, Urbana Free Library<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div
id="yiv3359191974"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Someone is willfully misinterpreting, but that ain't me. I am a Holocaust REVISIONIST,</div><div>because I believe we have inherited a grossly exaggerated account of the events that</div>
<div>are alleged to have taken place at the end of WWII. The number of alleged "victims" of</div><div>the Holocaust, 6,000,000, for example, appears to be a number that has theological or</div><div>ideological origins and is not historically accurate. See, for example, a study discussing</div>
<div>the origins of the 6,000,000 myth at <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://zioncrimefactory.com/the-six-million-myth/">http://zioncrimefactory.com/the-six-million-myth/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Moreover, the Nuremberg Tribunals appear to have presented a biased case to convey</div>
<div>the impression that the Nazis were responsible for the extensive starvation of inmates</div><div>at internment camps, when, as Robert Faurisson, "Against Hollywoodism, Revisionism", </div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2012/02/against-hollywoodism-revisionism.html">http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2012/02/against-hollywoodism-revisionism.html</a> has</div>
<div>explained, that was a consequence of Allied bombing of German cities, which interdicted</div><div>railroad lines and made it impossible to resupply the camps, leading to mass starvation.</div><div>Ironically, the Tribunals found that collective punishment is a war crime, which the Allies</div>
<div>appear to have been keen to cover-up by attributing the starvation to the Nazis instead.</div><div><br></div><div>There are many other reasons to doubt the "official account" of the Holocaust. I do not</div>
<div>DENY that Jews, gypsies and the mentally and physically infirm were abused by Nazis,</div><div>but the nature of that abuse appears to have been exaggerated for political purposes. It</div><div>is no coincidence that the allegation of being a "Holocaust denier" is raised against any</div>
<div>one who is remotely critical of the actions or policies of the government of Israel, which</div><div>may qualify as "anti-Zionist" but does not qualify as "anti-Semitic". For more, I have a</div><div>
half-dozen or more interviews on "The Real Deal" discussing Holocaust mythology at</div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/">http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com</a>. Anyone can go there and do a search on "Holocaust".</div>
<div><br></div><div>I published an article about this question, "Is 9/11 research 'anti-Semitic'?" in 2009. It</div><div>is offensive that Zionist organizations and individuals continue to attack all of us who</div>
<div>are trying to make sense of the evidence about the Holocaust and to counter the false</div><div>account of history that these exaggerated attacks entail, which play upon a sense of</div><div>Western guilt to manipulate the public to promote the political agenda of Israel. There</div>
<div>is more that could be said here, but I would like to think this is enough. I have most</div><div>recently laid out my views on these questions in an article in Veterans Today 2013:</div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/04/anti-anti-semitism-and-the-search-for-historical-truth/">http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/04/anti-anti-semitism-and-the-search-for-historical-truth/</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="yiv3359191974gmail_extra"><div class="yiv3359191974gmail_quote"><blockquote class="yiv3359191974gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><div style="font-style: normal; font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">----- Forwarded Message -----</span><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div style="font-size:12pt;"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David Gehrig
<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:david-cu@nukulele.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:david-cu@nukulele.org">david-cu@nukulele.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Stephen Francis <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com">stephenf1113@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:40 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OccupyCU] News Gazette article on 9/11 Truth Conference, Sept. 22, Urbana Free Library<br>
</font> </div> <div><br><div><div><div>Is that the same Jim Fetzer who says the Nazis only killed 600,000 Jews in the Holocaust, based on his willful misinterpretation of an ICRC document? Why, yes it is. </div><div><br>
</div><div>You're not doing a very good job disentangling yourself from the Holocaust denial
movement, are you. </div><div><br>@%<</div><div><br>On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:28 AM, Stephen Francis <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com">stephenf1113@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>
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<td style="width:515px;" valign="top"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-size:13px;">Hello all,</span></div><div style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0);">The News Gazette has published an <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2013-09-16/sunday-conference-focus-911-attacks.html#comment-516074">article</a> (and below) on The Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference this Sunday at the Urbana Free Library, in the auditorium from 1:30-4:45pm. Again, the speakers are </span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0);">three highly knowledgeable experts on 9/11 Truth including James Fetzer Ph.D. (founder of </span><span style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(0,0,127);"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://911scholars.org/" style="font-size:13px;outline:0px;">Scholars for 9/11 Truth</a><span style="font-size:13px;">)</span></span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(69,69,69);">,</span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0);"> Wayne Madsen (editor of </span><span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/" style="color:rgb(0,0,127);font-size:13px;outline:0px;">WayneMadsenReport.com</a>,<span style="color:rgb(0,0,127);font-size:16px;"> </span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0);">Washington D.C.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,127);font-size:13px;">)</span></span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(69,69,69);"> </span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0);">and Kevin Barrett (co-founder of the</span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,127);"> </span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.mujca.com/" style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,127);outline:0px;">Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth</a><span style="font-size:13px;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,127);">). </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">The conference is hosted by <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/uc911truth/">UC 9/11 Truth Urbana-Champaign</a> and <a
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://newsfollowup.com/midwest_911_truth_conference_champaign-urbana_september_2013_newsfollowup.htm">NewsFollowUp.com</a> ... see Facebook <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/events/394502717338293/">Event</a> </span></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"> email: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:info@midwest911truth.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:info@midwest911truth.com">info@midwest911truth.com</a></span></div>
<div style="font-size:16px;font-weight:normal;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,127);"><span style="font-size:13px;"><br></span></span></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-weight:normal;"><span><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><div style="background-color:transparent;">
The world has changed dramatically since 9/11. Citizens of the U.S. have seen a precipitous erosion in basic Constitutional <span style="background-color:transparent;">rights since 9/11. This usurpation of rights has been directly tied to the creation of government entities and legislation, such as the </span><span style="background-color:transparent;">Department of </span><span style="background-color:transparent;">Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, the NDAA and revelation of massive surveillance of the American people</span><span style="background-color:transparent;"> by NSA.</span></div>
<div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="background-color:transparent;"><br></span></div><div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="background-color:transparent;">The first component of the conference will be to view the widely
distributed and acclaimed documentary film by the Architects & </span><span style="background-color:transparent;">Engineers for 9/11 Truth, '</span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;">Explosive Evidence: Experts Speak Out</span><span style="background-color:transparent;">'. Because </span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.ae911truth.org/" style="background-color:transparent;outline:0px;">AE911Truth.org</a><span style="background-color:transparent;"> is a highly significant leader in the 9/11 </span></div>
<div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="background-color:transparent;">Truth movement, its influential documentary deserves careful </span><span style="background-color:transparent;">scrutiny insofar its</span><span style="background-color:transparent;"> conclusions are widely regarded as providing crucial evidence for future legal
action</span>. </div><div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="background-color:transparent;"><br></span></div><div style="background-color:transparent;"><div style="background-color:transparent;"></div></div>
</span></span></div></td><td valign="top"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><img src="http://www.newsfollowup.com/id/911_conference2/ng_press_release1.jpg"><br></span></td></tr></tbody></table></span></h2><div><table style="color: rgb(53, 53, 53); font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold; width: 900px;">
<tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="width:515px;"><div style="font-size:16px;font-weight:normal;"><span><span style="font-size:13px;"><div style="background-color:transparent;"><div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><span style="background-color:transparent;">James Fetzer, Ph.D., will assess the
A&E</span><span style="background-color:transparent;"> documentary and report the latest scientific findings about how it was done, where all sides agree that</span> the Twin Towers could not have been brought down by the impact of airliners and resulting fires.. His analysis of the science of 9/11 will be complemented by Wayne Madsen's analysis of who was responsible and why. Kevin Barrett will moderate and add his perspective to all of these issues.</span></div>
<div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><br></span></div><div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><span style="background-color:transparent;">We seek to </span><span style="background-color:transparent;">find answers to legitimate questions about 9/11</span><span style="background-color:transparent;"> and to enable credible prosecutors to bring the
perpetrators for these acts to </span></span></div><div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><span style="background-color:transparent;">justice. </span><span style="background-color:transparent;">There is a vast amount of evidence gathered to support </span><span style="background-color:transparent;">this belief and has led to the conclusion that neo-cons in the US were aided by the intelligence services of other countries. Supporters</span><span style="background-color:transparent;"> of the 9/11 Truth </span><span style="background-color:transparent;">movement, including local members of UC 9/11 Truth Urbana Champaign, </span><span style="background-color:transparent;">demand a new independent and international investigation of 9/11.</span></span></div>
<div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><span style="background-color:transparent;"><br></span></span></div><div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><span style="background-color:transparent;">We invite all to attend. The conference is free and open to the public.</span></span></div>
<div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><span style="background-color:transparent;">Thank you</span></span></div><div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><span style="background-color:transparent;">Steve Francis </span></span></div>
<div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><span style="background-color:transparent;">UC 9/11 Truth Urbana-Champaign email: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:info@midwest911truth.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:info@midwest911truth.com">info@midwest911truth.com</a></span></span></div>
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</span></div><div style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);">News Gazette article:</span></div><div style="color:rgb(69,69,69);background-color:transparent;"><span style="background-color:transparent;"><h2 style="background-image:none;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(53,53,53);">
Sunday conference to focus on 9/11 attacks</h2></span></div><div style="color:rgb(69,69,69);"><span style="background-color:transparent;"><br></span></div></div></span></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="font-size:16px;border:none;color:rgb(53,53,53);">
<span style="line-height:2.4em;color:rgb(119,119,119);"><div style="line-height:2.4em;"><span>Mon, 09/16/2013 - 7:40pm</span> | <span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.news-gazette.com/author/news-gazette" style="color: rgb(0, 51, 102); margin-bottom: 3px; text-decoration: none; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">The News-Gazette</a></span></div>
</span><div><div style="margin:10px 0px 0px;"><div><div></div><div>URBANA — A conference planned this weekend in Urbana will explore issues surrounding the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.</div><div>The Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference will be held at 1:30 p.m. Sunday in the auditorium of the Urbana Free Library, 210 W. Green St.</div>
<div>The event is sponsored by UC 9/11 Truth
Urbana-Champaign. (<span style="font-style:italic;">see Facebook</span>)</div><div>Admission is free and open to the public.</div><div>People who have been studying the events of Sept. 11 will talk about their perspectives on the
attacks.</div><div>"According to national and international polls, nearly 30 percent of the population is skeptical of the 'official' version of the events of 9/11," said Steve Francis of UC 9/11 Truth Champaign-Urbana. "The 9/11 Commission Report is viewed as a cover-up by a significant percentage of citizens and the 9/11 Truth Movement seeks to find answers to these questions about the real cause of those atrocities."</div>
<div>The conference will begin the presentation of a documentary film, "Explosive Evidence: Experts Speak Out."</div><div>James Fetzer, the founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, will comment on the documentary and report on scientific findings.</div>
<div>Wayne Madsen, editor of <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://waynemadsenreport.com/">WayneMadsenReport.com</a>, will provide an analysis of who may have been responsible for the attacks and why.</div><div>Kevin Barrett, co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for
9/11 Truth, will serve as moderator and will add his perspective on the
issues.</div><div>For more information on the event, call Fetzer at <a rel="nofollow" href="">608-354-4280</a>.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
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