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We're the government.<br>
We are the source of everything good.<br>
You really dont want to try living without us.<br>
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So --<br>
Assume the position, Bitch.<br>
Get down on your knees.<br>
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On 10/04/13 21:15, David Johnson wrote:
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<div><strong><font face="Arial">The question that I have wondered
about is if this Govt. shut-down dispute is " staged " shock doctrine
tactics ?</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Like the Fiscal Cliff " negotiations
" last year.</font></strong></div>
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<div><strong><font face="Arial">David J.</font></strong></div>
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Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:20 PM</div>
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Re: [Peace-discuss] AFL-CIO: 8 Things You Need to Know About the
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I think it's just make-believe partisan crap, exaggeration, accelerated
nonsense.<br>
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Shame on all those who support the Obot.<br>
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On 10/04/13 10:07, Robert Naiman wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">If they were shutting down the Pentagon, I might
have some sympathy for your position. But that's the one part of the
government that they're not shutting down.
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<div>There is a big problem with the partisan discussion - it's
excluding the Pentagon. A key reason that I agreed to host this event
was to make sure that the Pentagon was included in the discussion. </div>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Let's find ways to make
the shutdown permanent.
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<div>8 Things You Need to Know About the Shutdown</div>
<div>Seth D. Michaels</div>
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<div>This post originally appeared at Working America.<br>
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<div>In case you haven’t heard, the government shut down
[Tuesday morning] as Congress failed to pass a “continuing resolution”
to keep it operating. You’ll hear a lot of people saying this is a
“standoff” or a simple case of two sides being unable to compromise.
But it’s not politics as usual—it’s an unusual, and dangerous,
hijacking of politics by a determined minority. Here are eight things
to keep in mind as you watch this play out.</div>
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<div>1. It’s Totally Optional: First and foremost, there’s no
reason for a shutdown, except that House Republicans refuse to pass a
continuing resolution (CR) without attaching unrelated provisions to
undermine the Affordable Care Act. This is not an inevitable crisis.
It’s a manufactured one.</div>
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<div>2. About 800,000 People Aren’t Working, Many Working
Without Pay: That’s according to this good, comprehensive overview by
Brad Plumer of The Washington Post. “Non-essential employees” like
medical researchers, pesticide regulators, wage-law enforcement
officials and veterans’ benefits processors are staying home today, and
it’s unclear whether they’ll get back pay. That hit households hard.*</div>
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<div>3. A Lot of People Could Go Without Benefits: Per
Plumer’s report, some services provided by the government—like
disability claims and pensions for veterans and food aid for low-income
parents—will fall short if the shutdown goes on too long.<br>
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<div>4. That’s Awful for the Economy: When people don’t get
the money they’re expecting to get, they can’t do things like buy food
or pay rent. When families and businesses don’t know when government
will re-open, that makes matters worse. One economic research firm
estimates the cost of a shutdown to our economy at $300 million a day.</div>
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<div>5. Senate Democrats Have Already Compromised: The CR
that Senate Democrats have passed, multiple times, isn’t based on their
ideal budget. It’s based on the House Republicans’ lower spending
levels, which lock in place sequestration cuts. </div>
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<div>6. Keeping the Government Open Isn’t a Concession: House
Republicans are trying to say that they’re just trying to “negotiate”
with the Senate. But “do what we say or the economy gets it” isn’t a
“negotiation.” It does not constitute a compromise on their part to
“offer” to fund government operations. It’s called “governing.”</div>
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<div>7. Many Republicans Understand What They’re Doing Is
Crazy, Are Doing It Anyway: It’s simply not the case that most, or even
all, Republicans, are enthusiastic about forcing a standoff. Even
conservative writers admit that this is about a small, committed
ideological caucus within the Republican Party. As Kate Nocera reports,
Wisconsin Republican Reid Ribble called the shutdown strategy
“irrational” and admitted that it would cause “risk to our economy.”
And yet—out of loyalty to leadership, fear of a primary opponent or
some other mysterious reason—he voted with the rest of his party for
the “irrational” and economy-damaging strategy at every opportunity.
You get zero credit for knowing the right thing if you keep doing the
wrong thing anyway.</div>
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<div>8. It’s Undemocratic: Government by manufactured crisis
and hostage-taking violates the basic norms of democracy—and the polls
show that shutting down government to block or undermine the new health
care law is a deeply unpopular position. Republicans are engaging in
this behavior because they couldn’t win enough power in elections to
get what they want any other way. It’s absurd to accept that as normal.</div>
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<div>As this situation unfolds, keep those eight points in
mind.</div>
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<div>*Full disclosure: as the spouse of a federal employee,
I’m part of one of these hard-hit households.</div>
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Robert Naiman<br>
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