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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>The question that I have wondered about is if
this Govt. shut-down dispute is " staged " shock doctrine tactics
?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Like the Fiscal Cliff " negotiations " last
year.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<A title=ewj@pigsqq.org href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org">"E. Wayne Johnson
朱稳森"</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naiman@justforeignpolicy.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] AFL-CIO: 8
Things You Need to Know About the Shutdown</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I think it's just make-believe partisan crap, exaggeration,
accelerated nonsense.<BR><BR>Shame on all those who support the
Obot.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On 10/04/13 10:07, Robert Naiman wrote:
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<DIV dir=ltr>If they were shutting down the Pentagon, I might have some
sympathy for your position. But that's the one part of the government that
they're not shutting down.
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<DIV>There is a big problem with the partisan discussion - it's excluding
the Pentagon. A key reason that I agreed to host this event was to make sure
that the Pentagon was included in the discussion. </DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 7:06 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson
朱稳森" <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">ewj@pigsqq.org</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Let's find ways to make the shutdown
permanent.
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<DIV class=h5><BR><BR><BR>On 10/04/13 5:31, Robert Naiman wrote:
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<DIV>8 Things You Need to Know About the Shutdown</DIV>
<DIV>Seth D. Michaels</DIV>
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<DIV>This post originally appeared at Working America.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>In case you haven’t heard, the government shut down [Tuesday
morning] as Congress failed to pass a “continuing resolution” to keep it
operating. You’ll hear a lot of people saying this is a “standoff” or a
simple case of two sides being unable to compromise. But it’s not
politics as usual—it’s an unusual, and dangerous, hijacking of politics
by a determined minority. Here are eight things to keep in mind as you
watch this play out.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>1. It’s Totally Optional: First and foremost, there’s no reason for
a shutdown, except that House Republicans refuse to pass a continuing
resolution (CR) without attaching unrelated provisions to undermine the
Affordable Care Act. This is not an inevitable crisis. It’s a
manufactured one.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>2. About 800,000 People Aren’t Working, Many Working Without Pay:
That’s according to this good, comprehensive overview by Brad Plumer of
The Washington Post. “Non-essential employees” like medical researchers,
pesticide regulators, wage-law enforcement officials and veterans’
benefits processors are staying home today, and it’s unclear whether
they’ll get back pay. That hit households hard.*</DIV>
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<DIV>3. A Lot of People Could Go Without Benefits: Per Plumer’s report,
some services provided by the government—like disability claims and
pensions for veterans and food aid for low-income parents—will fall
short if the shutdown goes on too long.<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>4. That’s Awful for the Economy: When people don’t get the money
they’re expecting to get, they can’t do things like buy food or pay
rent. When families and businesses don’t know when government will
re-open, that makes matters worse. One economic research firm estimates
the cost of a shutdown to our economy at $300 million a day.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>5. Senate Democrats Have Already Compromised: The CR that Senate
Democrats have passed, multiple times, isn’t based on their ideal
budget. It’s based on the House Republicans’ lower spending levels,
which lock in place sequestration cuts. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>6. Keeping the Government Open Isn’t a Concession: House
Republicans are trying to say that they’re just trying to “negotiate”
with the Senate. But “do what we say or the economy gets it” isn’t a
“negotiation.” It does not constitute a compromise on their part to
“offer” to fund government operations. It’s called “governing.”</DIV>
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<DIV>7. Many Republicans Understand What They’re Doing Is Crazy, Are
Doing It Anyway: It’s simply not the case that most, or even all,
Republicans, are enthusiastic about forcing a standoff. Even
conservative writers admit that this is about a small, committed
ideological caucus within the Republican Party. As Kate Nocera reports,
Wisconsin Republican Reid Ribble called the shutdown strategy
“irrational” and admitted that it would cause “risk to our economy.” And
yet—out of loyalty to leadership, fear of a primary opponent or some
other mysterious reason—he voted with the rest of his party for the
“irrational” and economy-damaging strategy at every opportunity. You get
zero credit for knowing the right thing if you keep doing the wrong
thing anyway.</DIV>
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<DIV>8. It’s Undemocratic: Government by manufactured crisis and
hostage-taking violates the basic norms of democracy—and the polls show
that shutting down government to block or undermine the new health care
law is a deeply unpopular position. Republicans are engaging in this
behavior because they couldn’t win enough power in elections to get what
they want any other way. It’s absurd to accept that as normal.</DIV>
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<DIV>As this situation unfolds, keep those eight points in mind.</DIV>
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<DIV>*Full disclosure: as the spouse of a federal employee, I’m part of
one of these hard-hit households.</DIV><SPAN><FONT color=#888888>
<DIV><BR></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>-- <BR>Robert
Naiman<BR>Policy Director<BR>Just Foreign Policy<BR><A
href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">www.justforeignpolicy.org</A><BR><A
href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</A><BR>
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