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I am sure you still mean Leopold not Theobold but<br>
I think that Leopold is not much of a feature of American History<br>
but those who are willing can certain educate themselves about<br>
a number of things.<br>
<br>
There is no reason to be upset that the world doesnt spoon-feed you<br>
what you need to know. It's up to the individual to dig out<br>
what interests him and chase the rabbits as he likes with<br>
his friends or alone, above ground or below.<br>
Knowledge fades and is superseded by truth so<br>
one must be continually learning whether there is<br>
a conspiracy favouring bullshit or just the natural<br>
action of so many bulls. The cowshit is flatter.<br>
<br>
Emily Dickinson is the author. There are lots<br>
of Cliff's notes-like interpretations of her poems<br>
or you can read them and make your own assessment.<br>
<br>
On 10/06/13 20:41, Stephen Francis wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:1381063277.86190.YahooMailNeo@web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com"
type="cite">
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id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"><span
style="font-size: 13px;">I don't know what "</span><span
style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 15.8594px;">Tell all the Truth
but tell it slant—" this means?</span></div>
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class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_55 yui_3_7_2_31_1381058431092_56"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"><span
style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 15.8594px;">but if it has
something to do with why humanity has been drubbed with the Holocaust
for 70 years and (who's Theobold?)....then:</span></div>
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style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span
style="font-size: 13px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_55"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_112"
style="font-size: 13px;">Theobold is as obscure as the fact that the
Warburg's (Zionists) helped finance the Bolshevik Revolution and that
Hitler was vehemently anti-Jewish/Communist (Lenin, Trotzky...and...).</span></div>
<div
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id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span
style="font-size: 13px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_138"
style="font-size: 13px;">Theobold is as obscure as the fact that the
German people are really the ones that (wink wink) let Hitler gas the
Jews. Germany was winning WW1 until the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_145" target="_blank"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement">Sykes-Picot</a> (Wikipedia) and
the <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_150" target="_blank"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration">Balfour
Declaration</a> agreement that promised a Jewish state in Palestine if
the US would enter the war. The German people hated the Jews for this.</span></div>
<div class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
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<div class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_261"
style="font-size: 13px;">Germany was threatening British dominance.
WWI and all wars are cooked up and always about financial and resource
control. Research the 'Zimmerman Telegram' and how it is paramount in
understanding the meaning of the 'bin Laden' tapes propaganda regime in
our times. The Zimmerman Telegram was 'leaked' just before the US
entry into the WWI by a controlled media.<br
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</span></div>
<div class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
style="font-size: 13px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_249"
style="font-size: 13px;"></span></div>
<div class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_240"
style="background-color: transparent;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_388"
style="font-size: 13px;">When Russia dropped out of WWI, Britain and
France were desperate because Germany could withdraw from the eastern
front. German Zionists wanted Palestine so they "stabbed in the back" </span><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_369"
style="font-size: 13px;">(</span></span><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_363"
style="line-height: 25px; font-size: 13px;">Dolchstosslegende</span><span
style="color: rgb(74, 74, 73); line-height: 25px; font-size: 13px;">, </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_349"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_163" target="_blank"
href="http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html"
style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;">Kansas Press</a><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_350"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_282"
style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;">)</span><span
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(74, 74, 73); font-family: Arial,Verdana,sans-serif; line-height: 25px;"> </span><span
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">the German
citizens to help the "Allies" defeat the "Central Powers" (Germany,
Austria-Hungary and Turkey), thus freeing Palestine from the
centuries-old grip of the Ottoman Turks.</span></div>
<div class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent;"><span
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_329"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_328"
style="background-color: transparent;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_390"
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px;">(Does this sound
familiar? Iraq was a threat to Israel and a threat to the 'dollar'
(banksters). Saddam Hussein was going to convert oil export sales from
the dollar to the euro. Was the Iraq War fought for Israeli interests?
Yes. Iraq was absolutely no threat to the US. There was no WMD found.
Lies. The US people were betrayed just as the Germans in WWI. Was </span><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_386"
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 18px; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">9/11</span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px;"> the "Pearl Harbor" that
kicked off the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, Yes.) ... Inside Job,
Yes. or.... Sen. Dick Durbin and AIPAC pulling out all the stops for
the attack on Syria? .... all based on lies about chemical weapons
(dejavu).</span></span></div>
<div
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id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;"><br>
</span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_329 yui_3_7_2_31_1381058431092_74"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;">Back to WWI</span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_212"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_211"
style="background-color: transparent;">The Warburgs (Zionists, </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_208" target="_blank"
href="http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0020_0_20614.html"
style="background-color: transparent;">Jewish Virtual Library</a><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_217"
style="background-color: transparent;">) advised Wilson in negotiating
the Treaty of Versailles (war reparations), that led to widespread
depression in the German economy, which led to more hatred of the Jews
in Germany, which led to the rise of Hitler, which led to the excesses
of war (gassing Jews, Gypsies...). </span>Human beings can be vicious
creatures. <span id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_381"
style="background-color: transparent;">Jews owned and controlled most
German banks and the media.</span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_212 yui_3_7_2_31_1381058431092_79"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
style="background-color: transparent;"> </span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_212 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_302"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_301"
style="background-color: transparent;">Germany thrived during the
'Depression', because of Hitler's economic policies and the rejection
of the Treaty of Versailles. <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
shape="rect" id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_355"
target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzdqRY3zNIY">The
Greatest Story Never Told</a></span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_212 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_291"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_290"
style="background-color: transparent;">The people of Germany loved
Hitler (he led them out of economic depression) and hated the Jews for
their highly loyal and effective anti-Hitler boycotts. <a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_274" target="_blank"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfer_Agreement">The
Transfer Agreements</a> (Wikipedia) were part of this process which led
to Zionist funding of emigration to Palestine that actually began in
the 1850's via Rothschild funding.<br
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</span></div>
<div
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id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
style="background-color: transparent;"><br>
</span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_212
yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_291"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_404"
style="background-color: transparent;">Not a single enemy soldier ever
set foot on German soil during WWI, yet Germany surrendered? Who
controlled this process? The victors write the history...they say.</span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_212 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_291"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_333"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_278"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">There were
150,000 Jews in the Third Reich (</span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_349"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_163" target="_blank"
href="http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">Kansas Press</a><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_350"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_282"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">) </span><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_343"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">Mischlinge</span><span
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_286"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;"> </span><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_351"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">....</span><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_335"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_307"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">.they were
Jews loyal to Hitler for what he did for the German economy (this is
obscured in this article).</span></div>
<div
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id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_335"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_212 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_291"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_335"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">Is not
Palestine a central theme in world politics? Is Israel accused of being
an apartheid regime. Is not Israel an imperialistic monster? The
Zionists stole Palestine and are killing the Palestinians who are just
fighting to get their land back. They will never give that argument
away. Would you?</span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_212 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_291"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_335"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_212 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_291"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_335"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">Hitler got rid
of the central banks because he saw there destructive debt-based
currency system as the disease that it is. Currency was produced by
the Reich, not private Jewish bankers. (John F. Kennedy tried the same
thing). This is why the boycotts were instigated. Tensions mounted and
the Germans responded by boycotting Jewish stores.</span></div>
<div
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id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_335"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_139 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_212 yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_291"
id="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_56"
style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
class="yiv3739339842yui_3_7_2_80_1380939336497_335"
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">In WWII,
Hitler only looked East until Britain and France declared war. There
were atrocities on all sides. The Kaytn Massacre was eventually
rightly blamed on the Russians. <br>
</span></div>
<div
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style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">Hitler created
concentration camps much the same way that the Japanese internment
camps were created in the US, to remove a perceived internal threat
(Zionists). The biggest cause of death in the concentration camps was
typhus, which was spread by fleas. Zyklon b was used as a
disinfectant, the corpses of the dead were burned in ovens to to
dispose of the diseased individuals. This is just as believable a
version as those who say they were intentionally murdered by gassing.
The victors in this case have control of the tale. The International
Red Cross puts the number at 400,000. Israel got there state, but are
they the real victors? I say not. I would never want to be in there
shoes, not for a second.</span></div>
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style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">Is the napalm
that has deformed hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese or the depleted
uranium in weapons used in Kosovo, Iraq, Libya, Syria (Israel) any less
atrocious than the gas chambers? Was the nuclear attack on Japan much
more 'political' than people are led to believe?</span></div>
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style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">The above is
the real history of an important part of the twentieth century that
you'll never read in text books. You will be crapped on for stating
it, but you're accusers never try to prove you wrong, they just attack
you as anti-semitic. That's ok, the tide is turning. These issues are
absolutely relevant today (Syria, Yemen, Sudan, everywhere) and will be
in the future. When someone calls you antisemitic it just means you've
struck a nerve of truth. </span></div>
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style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">The same
people that are taking away our civil liberties and have amassed an
obscene amount of wealth are the same people that murdered nearly 4000
people (1100 First Responders) on 9/11. .... and 1 million Iraqis.</span></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> E. Wayne Johnson
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Stephen Francis
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday,
October 5, 2013 4:17 PM<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [sftalk] Re:
[Peace-discuss] When You Kill Ten Million Africans You Aren't Called
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On Oct 5, 2013, at 3:48 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森"
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> I had heard of him.<br clear="none">
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> Of course I am nobody.<br clear="none">
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> Dont tell emily dickinson that there are 3 of us.<br clear="none">
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> On 10/06/13 0:42, Stephen Francis wrote:<br clear="none">
>> The point here is that no one has ever heard of Leopold....Why
is that?<br clear="none">
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>> From: E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森 <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org"><ewj@pigsqq.org></a><br
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>> To: Stephen Francis <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com"><stephenf1113@yahoo.com></a> <br
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>> Cc: sftalk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sftalk@yahoogroups.com"><sftalk@yahoogroups.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">"peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"</a>
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>> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:20 AM<br clear="none">
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] When You Kill Ten Million
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>> King Leopold of Belgium was an interesting fellow.<br
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>> Most of those killed in the Congo were killed by fellow
Africans<br clear="none">
>> who became the military police, and by pestilence.<br
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>> Not exactly a round 'em up and kill 'em programme like Hitler<br
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>> but atrocious none the less.<br clear="none">
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>> On 10/05/13 22:28, Stephen Francis wrote:<br clear="none">
>>> For all you antiSemitism accusation freakoids out
there.... Why is it that the vast majority have never heard of King
Leopold II of Belgium. <br clear="none">
>>> The website WalkingButterfly is not anti-semitic....and
notice all the Socialist organizations advertising.<br clear="none">
>>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.walkingbutterfly.com/2010/12/22/when-you-kill-ten-million-africans-you-arent-called-hitler/">http://www.walkingbutterfly.com/2010/12/22/when-you-kill-ten-million-africans-you-arent-called-hitler/</a><br
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.walkingbutterfly.com/?s=holocaust&submit.x=-1255&submit.y=-147">http://www.walkingbutterfly.com/?s=holocaust&submit.x=-1255&submit.y=-147</a>
See Socialist advertising.<br clear="none">
>>> Mark Twain: “King Leopold’s soliloquy; a defense of his
Congo rule“ <br clear="none">
>>> When You Kill Ten Million Africans You Aren’t Called
‘Hitler’<br clear="none">
>>> Take a look at this picture. Do you know who it is?<br
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>>> Most people haven’t heard of him.<br clear="none">
>>> But you should have. When you see his face or hear his
name you should get as sick in your stomach as when you read about
Mussolini or Hitler or see one of their pictures. You see, he killed
over 10 million people in the Congo.<br clear="none">
>>> His name is King Leopold II of Belgium.<br clear="none">
>>> He “owned” the Congo during his reign as the
constitutional monarch of Belgium. After several failed colonial
attempts in Asia and Africa, he settled on the Congo. He “bought” it
and enslaved its people, turning the entire country into his own
personal slave plantation. He disguised his business transactions as
“philanthropic” and “scientific” efforts under the banner of the
International African Society. He used their enslaved labor to extract
Congolese resources and services. His reign was enforced through work
camps, body mutilations, executions, torture, and his private army.<br
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>>> Most of us aren’t taught about him in school. We don’t
hear about him in the media. He’s not part of the widely repeated
narrative of oppression (which includes things like the Holocaust
during World War II). He’s part of a long history of colonialism,
imperialism, slavery and genocide in Africa that would clash with the
social construction of the white supremacist narrative in our schools.
It doesn’t fit neatly into a capitalist curriculum. Making overtly
racist remarks is (sometimes) frowned upon in polite society, but it’s
quite fine not to talk about genocides in Africa perpetrated by
European capitalist monarchs.<br clear="none">
>>> Mark Twain wrote a satire about Leopold called “King
Leopold’s soliloquy; a defense of his Congo rule“, where he mocked the
King’s defense of his reign of terror, largely through Leopold’s own
words. It’s an easy read at 49 pages long. Mark Twain is a popular
author for American public schools. But like most political authors, we
will often read some of their least political writings or read them
without learning why the author wrote them (Orwell’s Animal Farm for
example serves to re-inforce American anti-socialist propaganda, but
Orwell was an anti-capitalist revolutionary of a different kind, and
that is never pointed out). We can read about Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer,
but King Leopold’s Soliloquy isn’t on the reading list. This isn’t by
accident. Reading lists are created by boards of education in order to
prepare students to follow orders and endure boredom well. From the
point of view of the Education Department, Africans have no history.<br
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>>> When we learn about Africa, we learn about a caricaturized
Egypt, about the HIV epidemic (but never its causes), about the surface
level effects of the slave trade, and maybe about South African
Apartheid (which of course now is long, long over). We also see lots of
pictures of starving children on Christian Ministry commercials, we see
safaris on animal shows, and we see pictures of deserts in films and
movies. But we don’t learn about the Great African War or Leopold’s
Reign of Terror during the Congolese Genocide. Nor do we learn about
what the United States has done in Iraq and Afghanistan, killing
millions of people through bombs, sanctions, disease and starvation.
Body counts are important. And we don’t count Afghans, Iraqis, or
Congolese.<br clear="none">
>>> There’s a Wikipedia page called “Genocides in History”.
The Congolese Genocide isn’t included. The Congo is mentioned though.
What’s now called the Democratic Republic of the Congo is listed in
reference to the Second Congo War (also called Africa’s World War and
the Great War of Africa), where both sides of the multinational
conflict hunted down Bambenga and ate them. Cannibalism and slavery are
horrendous evils which must be entered into history and talked about
for sure, but I couldn’t help thinking whose interests were served when
the only mention of the Congo on the page was in reference to
multi-national incidents where a tiny minority of people were eating
each other (completely devoid of the conditions which created the
conflict). Stories which support the white supremacist narrative about
the subhumanness of people in Africa are allowed to be entered into the
records of history. The white guy who turned the Congo into his own
personal part-plantation, part-concentration camp, part-Christian
ministry and killed 10 to 15 million Conglese people in the process
doesn’t make the cut.<br clear="none">
>>> You see, when you kill ten million Africans, you aren’t
called ‘Hitler’. That is, your name doesn’t come to symbolize the
living incarnation of evil. Your name and your picture don’t produce
fear, hatred, and sorrow. Your victims aren’t talked about and your
name isn’t remembered.<br clear="none">
>>> Leopold was just one part of thousands of things that
helped construct white supremacy as both an ideological narrative and
material reality. Of course I don’t want to pretend that in the Congo
he was the source of all evil. He had generals, and foot soldiers, and
managers who did his bidding and enforced his laws. It was a system.
But that doesn’t negate the need to talk about the individuals who are
symbolic of the system. But we don’t even get that. And since it isn’t
talked about, what capitalism did to Africa, all the privileges that
rich white people gained from the Congolese genocide are hidden. The
victims of imperialism are made, like they usually are, invisible.<br
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