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There is no question that the US education system is not good,<br>
and is getting worse. I believe that education is the <br>
responsibility of the individual and the responsibility óf <br>
the individual family. The society should provide the <br>
opportunity for education. We sent our children to <br>
King School in Urbana. We love King school and are<br>
very grateful for what the teachers there did for our<br>
children. But the children get a far better math background<br>
in Beijing than what they would get in Urbana. It's a <br>
difference of goals.<br>
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Education isnt everything. <br>
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Pigs are smarter than dogs, and can be taught to <br>
run video games to get food. Dogs don't have the<br>
ROM chips to comprehend what is going on at all.<br>
That difference is genetic. And one should not<br>
try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time<br>
and annoys the pig.<br>
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People differ in their abilities. Sometimes real<br>
ability comes from what is missing not necessarily<br>
from what is there. As Lao said.<br>
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Margin of error or not, these OECD ratings measure<br>
something. One could say that the study is poorly<br>
designed or slanted in some way. Lots of studies are<br>
done by drawing the graph at the desk and then going out<br>
in search of the data to be plotted. It's a plot to <br>
find data.<br>
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The problem with the haemorrhaging of jobs from the USA<br>
is that it is a loss of skills as well. Knowing how<br>
to do something in a manufacturing facility or in carpentry,<br>
or many other lines of work is not something learned in school<br>
but it something learned on the job. When workers<br>
retire and are replaced by outsourcing, the work experience<br>
component is lost from the country, and that is a serious<br>
loss not easily recovered.<br>
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Preparation is one good thing but what use is it if there<br>
are not to be any jobs?<br>
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On 10/08/13 23:43, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:
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We'll see that this is discussed today on AWARE ON THE AIR (cable- and
web-cast at 10pm this evening at <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://urbanapublictelevision.org">urbanapublictelevision.org</a>>).
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<div>On Oct 8, 2013, at 10:35 AM, David Green <<a
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<div>If you actually click on the study and look at the final
results tabulation, you'll see very little real difference between any
two countries. Other than Japan and Finland at the top and the couple
at the bottom, there is this vast middle of nearly identical results.<br>
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This is like claiming that because the U.S. achieved a 7.4 on a 10
point scale while some other countries achieved a 7.6 (and the rest
7.3's and 7.2's) we're somehow deficient. Roll the die again with
another set of tested adults and watch the U.S. get a 7.7 and those
7.6's drop to 7.5's.<br>
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<strong>This is propaganda pure and simple. As for actual,
scientific results it does nothing but repeat what we've known for 30
years going - very homogenous societies (Japan and Finland) do a better
job of educating their citizens. The rest of the diversified world does
an identical, mostly adequate job.<br>
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The problem isn't a skills gap, it's a jobs gap - there are no jobs.</strong></div>
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