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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Well said Karen !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Of course Yaqov ignores David Green's question of
what his ( Yaqov's ) opinions for Middle East East are , if any other than
" Israel Uber alles ".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>And the same question to Yaqov that he asked David
Green... define what YOU mean by " Palestinians " ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>David Johnson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=karenaram@hotmail.com href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com">Karen
Aram</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=yaaqovz@gmail.com
href="mailto:yaaqovz@gmail.com">ya'aQov</A> ; <A title=davegreen84@yahoo.com
href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">David Green</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=peace-discuss@anti-war.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">Peace Discuss</A> ; <A
title=peace@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net">peace@lists.chambana.net</A> ; <A
title=discuss-communitycourtwatch@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:discuss-communitycourtwatch@lists.chambana.net">discuss-communitycourtwatch@lists.chambana.net</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 27, 2013 4:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace]
Press release</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>At one time they followed the below, today they simply criticize,
agitate, disrupt, and/or slander in an effort to discredit those who are
involved in attempting to change the system. Somehow insisting they can
do or think better. When given the opportunity to do, they don't. It then
becomes obvious who and what they are, time and time again they will go after
individuals and groups and its always the same, instead of working to change
whats wrong they go after those that are, by wearing them down or just
boring them to death. It's one of those things you can't really discribe,
but you know it when you see or hear it.<BR> <BR>The technical term:
<BR> <BR>An <B>agent provocateur</B> (<A title="French language"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language">French</A> for "inciting
agent") is an undercover agent who acts to <A title=Entrapment
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment">entice another person to commit
an illegal</A> or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an
illegal act. An agent provocateur may be employed by the <A title=Police
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police">police</A> or other entity to
discredit or harm another group (e.g., peaceful protest or demonstration) by
provoking them to commit an act - thus, undermining the protest or
demonstration as whole.<BR>To prevent infiltration by agents provocateurs,<SUP
id=cite_ref-1 class=reference><A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur#cite_note-1"><FONT
size=4><SPAN>[</SPAN>1<SPAN>]</SPAN></FONT></A></SUP> the organizers of large
or controversial assemblies may deploy and coordinate <A class=mw-redirect
title="Demonstration marshal"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonstration_marshal">demonstration
marshals</A>, also called stewards.<SUP id=cite_ref-OCSE2007_2-0
class=reference><A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur#cite_note-OCSE2007-2"><FONT
size=4><SPAN>[</SPAN>2<SPAN>]</SPAN></FONT></A></SUP><SUP
id=cite_ref-Bryan06_3-0 class=reference><A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur#cite_note-Bryan06-3"><FONT
size=4><SPAN>[</SPAN>3<SPAN>]</SPAN></FONT></A></SUP><BR><SUP></SUP> <BR><SUP></SUP> <BR><BR> <BR>
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Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:31:38 -0600<BR>From: yaaqovz@gmail.com<BR>To:
davegreen84@yahoo.com<BR>CC: peace-discuss@anti-war.net;
discuss-communitycourtwatch@lists.chambana.net;
peace@lists.chambana.net<BR>Subject: Re: [Peace] Press release<BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV class=ecxgmail_default><SPAN
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<P
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dir=ltr><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arvo; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-SIZE: 19px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline">David
Green, </SPAN></P><BR><SPAN
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<P
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dir=ltr><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arvo; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-SIZE: 19px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline">Indeed,
the meeting I referred to was at CPL a panel you were on. </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arvo; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-SIZE: 19px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline">My
specific question to Dr Abu Al-Aish at UFL, was about </SPAN><A
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.15; TEXT-DECORATION: none"
href="http://news.sky.com/story/849144/kidnapped-italian-activist-found-dead-in-gaza"
target=_blank><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arvo; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; FONT-SIZE: 19px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; TEXT-DECORATION: underline">Vittorio
Arrigoni</SPAN></A><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arvo; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-SIZE: 19px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline">
and his assassination by Hamas. The level of your purposeful misquoting my
statements at that and other meetings critically disappoints me. If this is
what an academic does when getting into politics, don't we have such
politicians already</SPAN></P>
<P
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dir=ltr><SPAN
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<P
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dir=ltr><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arvo; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-SIZE: 19px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline">Your
ethnic profiling of me is indicative of the depth you would apply to someone
challenging your standpoint. You would think, it's your campaign related need
to tarnish one's image and trivialize her/his comments. After all, you
are trying so hard to show you are concerned and involved with your potential
voters (yet in the face of disagreements, you do whatever it takes to defend
your ticket, it's a mere technicality to pass over a hurdle).
</SPAN><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.15; FONT-FAMILY: Arvo; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-SIZE: 19px">Did
you really need to embed your reply with offensive remarks, character
assassination attempts? isn’t Rush Limbaugh an excellent spokesperson
for doing that already? </SPAN></P>
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<P
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dir=ltr><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arvo; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; COLOR: rgb(34,34,34); FONT-SIZE: 19px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline">And
you haven’t answered yet my question: what you considered Palestinians (?)
other than by implying they are those people that Israelis have been been
horrible with. Mind you, you propose no change about that,</SPAN></P>
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