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Interaction with yaaaQ'ov is a bit like interaction <br>
with a large pile of cat feces.<br>
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If you get very close to such a pile, <br>
you almost always get a little bit of it on you,<br>
and you always come away with the smell.<br>
<br>
Sometimes it is best to see what sunshine and the process of <br>
time will do to it rather than become besplattered in trying to <br>
force it.<br>
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On 12/28/2013 7:21 AM, ya'aQov wrote:
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<div class="gmail_default"
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Green, <br>
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You have now documented your ways of addressing someone who'd showed
disagreement with your opinions. You resorted to offensive remarks and
ethnic profiling. I have read too many of your articles, redundantly
adhering to Palestinian propaganda, propaganda that accomplished
nothing. Clinging to the buzz of names like Chomsky and Finkelstein
doesn't cover for the fact you, David Green, have nothing new and
current to say. You're a clichee rubber stamper.<br>
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But you are welcome to stand on any issues you wish. Your inability to
formulate a brief paragraph about something you wrote articles about
does not favor you as someone who wants to be a spokesperson, speaking
on your feet. Your CPL panel was similar, when you never looked at
the people you supposedly addressed. Are you going to refer your
supporters to your corpus of articles on the Internet when you're asked
a simple question? perhaps assign them term papers? I have reasons to
NOT be one of those C-U citizens. Informed C-U citizens will
eventually vote.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:39 PM, David Green
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<div><span>Am I supposed to be impressed that you asked Abueleish
about the murder of other Palestinians rather than about the murder of
his daughters by Israeli Jews?</span></div>
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<div><span>Yaaqov, you are welcome to plan another event at CPL or
UFL and discuss these issues publicly, as part of my campaign, or
yours. You can invite local Zionists, non-Zionists, anti-Zionists, and
Palestinians. Or just you and me. I think I've made myself pretty clear
about where I stand on all these issues. You can look up my articles on
the internet, just google my name with Champaign, Urbana, Israel,
Palestine--not a big secret. You can also go on the NewsAccess search
engine through the campus library and bring up all my News-Gazette (and
NYT) letters and articles. Do I have to serve them to you on a neat
platter?</span></div>
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<div><span>If you were the least bit genuinely concerned about a
just peace in I/P, your actions locally would have long since
demonstrated that. But you persist in "moral equivalence" between
oppressor and oppressed, in order to hide your own clear lack of
interest in assertively supporting the Palestinian cause, always
reserving the final complaint against Israel's Palestinian victims.</span></div>
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<div><span>The difference between you and me, as far as I can tell,
is that I'm concerned with the consequences of my government's actions,
and the consequences of institutionalized racism in Jewish
cultural/political/religious/educational life. That's why I protested
the "Israel Studies Program" on campus, funded by the Lobby in Chicago
and inviting only Jews--thus racist to the core, and supported by the
late Chancellor Richard Herman, and uncommented upon in our community
except by me.</span></div>
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<div><span>The panel at CPL was regarding Islamophobia in Jewish
and American culture. I believe my remarks provided the basis for this
article:</span></div>
<div><span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://mondoweiss.net/2010/09/a-higher-racism-the-new-justifications-for-islamophobia-and-pre-emptive-violence.html"
target="_blank">http://mondoweiss.net/2010/09/a-higher-racism-the-new-justifications-for-islamophobia-and-pre-emptive-violence.html</a></span></div>
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<div><span>I look forward to your planning an event to publicly
discuss these issues in front of the community. At this point, I am
completely finished with this conversation.</span></div>
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<div><span>David Green</span></div>
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the meeting I referred to was at CPL a panel you were on. </span><span
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specific question to Dr Abu Al-Aish at UFL, was about </span><a
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Arrigoni</span></a><span
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and his assassination by Hamas. The level of your purposeful misquoting
my statements at that and other meetings<br>
critically disappoints me. If this is what an academic does when
getting into politics, don't we have such politicians already</span></div>
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ethnic profiling of me is indicative of the depth you would apply to
someone challenging your standpoint. You would think, it's your
campaign related need to tarnish one's image and trivialize her/his
comments. After all, you are trying so hard to show you are concerned
and involved with your potential voters (yet in the face of
disagreements, you do whatever it takes to defend your ticket, it's a
mere technicality to pass over a hurdle). </span><span
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you really need to embed your reply with offensive remarks, character
assassination<br>
attempts? isn’t Rush Limbaugh an excellent spokesperson for doing that
already? </span></div>
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you haven’t answered yet my question: what you considered Palestinians
(?) other than by implying they are those people that Israelis have
been been horrible with. Mind you, you propose no change about that,</span></div>
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