<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>There will always be those who blame antisemitism on the Jews, just as there are those who blame other forms of racism on their targets. It's very sloppy thinking and you seem to be leaning very close to joining their ranks here.</div><div><br></div><div>The cause of racism is racists. The cause of bigotry is bigots. Their problem, their faulty thought patterns, their moral weaknesses. The Jews are not by any means morally obligated to make extra-super-super-super-nice in order to win over neanderthal racists, and it's ridiculous to suggest that it's fundamentally a PR problem, and the onus is on the Jews to solve it.</div><div><br></div><div>When something as horrendous as Steve Francis comes along, with his Holocaust denial and his Big Goddamn Jew Conspiracy horseshit, then hell yeah, I'm going to be uppity, and hell yeah I'm going to be loud, and hell no, I'm not going to feel constrained to mute myself down because of your pearl clutching.</div><div><br>@%<</div><div><br>On May 21, 2014, at 3:54 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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I think that Karen's approach is more effective.<br>
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She points out the goodness and utility of "semites" and <br>
instructs that every net can bring up good and bad fish.<br>
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Shem had lots of children it seems, even more than Abraham,<br>
so the "semites" are a larger group than those who recoil<br>
from what they call anti-semitism. I am not sure that Shem<br>
would take it all that personally.<br>
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The "semites" (the in-quotes ones) seem to have public relations
problem. <br>
Rather than attacking antisemitism with creative name-calling, it would<br>
seem to be more useful to have a positive PR program.<br>
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Since the children of Ishmael are getting a lot of bad PR, it might<br>
be good to consider semites collectively. Maybe some some<br>
bumper stickers, t-shirts, and some positive slogans...<br>
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"Semites are NIFTY"<br>
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"Semites have Sand".<br>
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I am sure other promotable positive attributes come to mind.<br>
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On 5/22/2014 4:18 AM, David Gehrig via Peace-discuss wrote:
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<div>Well, given that it's about the biggest pile of crap ever
assembled, I can understand why you've mistaken it for a mountain --
except for the racist stench, which you alone don't seem to notice.</div>
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<div>You've got that special magic combination of perfect sureness
and perfect ignorance when it comes to the Jews. Please stop spewing
your racism on this list, where you have exactly zero support.<br>
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On May 21, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Stephen Francis <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com">stephenf1113@yahoo.com</a>>
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