<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Nope. The time to call out antisemitism is when it occurs. The place to call out antisemitism is where it occurs. Even when doing so causes pig doctors to clutch their pearls. </div><div><br></div><div>Francis just gave us an irremediably antisemitic blast. Are you all right with that?</div><div><br>@%<</div><div><br>On May 21, 2014, at 8:33 AM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" <<a href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org">ewj@pigsqq.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Seriously, Mr. Gehrig,<br>
Don't you suppose you are over-reacting,<br>
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On 5/21/2014 11:57 AM, David Gehrig via Peace-discuss wrote:
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<div>No, you're a ridiculously shaggy thinker who has fallen for one
of the world's dumbest racist idiocies, and dug yourself deeper into
the dumbth substrata with each post. It's hilarious to see you peddle
such open, sewer-scented bigotry and then claim you want to live in a
fair world. The fault lies not in some "Jewish juggernaut" but your own
fundamental incomprehension of the Jews. <br>
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On May 20, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Stephen Francis <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com">stephenf1113@yahoo.com</a>>
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<div><span>I'm just a hippy peace activist who has run into a
college town liberal left Jewish juggernaut to my absolute
astonishment...</span></div>
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just want to live in a fair world... that does not exist and is getting
worse.... and is full of lies and deception.</span></div>
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you fight for that fair world or slither away with your tail between
your legs.<br>
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2014 9:17 PM, Stephen Francis <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com">stephenf1113@yahoo.com</a>>
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<div><span>Where do I start?</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>They
financed and led the Bolshevik Revolution which was basically the first
major experiment in attempting world control that led to 60 million
dead for absolutely no reason other than to steal the Tzarist treasure
and resources. </span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>They
dictated the terms of the Versailles Treaty that led to the creation of
Hitler which led to the deaths of 60 million in WWII and profited from
both sides via the rearmament of Germany after WWI</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Zionist
banks and the military industrial complex created the myth of the Cold
War, Harriman (and friends) actually ran and profited greatly from the
control of the Soviet Union while Stalin was incapacitated.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>8
out of 13 of the heads of the Federal Reserve were/are Jewish.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">They
control the world's central banks, and instigate debt schemes that put
billions in servitude.</div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">They
are hated all over the world for their greed and sense of superiority.</div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>They
control Hollywood which is a major source of mind control and
propaganda.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>They
owned all the major newspaper chains throughout the twentieth century
but have not been able to control the internet, as much as they would
like to.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>A
Jewish/Neocon cabal instigated the invasion of Iraq based on a false
flag attack on 9/11 where 3000 people were murdered.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>They
comprise only .002 percent of the population but around 15 percent of
billionaires are Jewish.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>They
are in bed with the NSA via Amdocs in mining the world's communications
systems...</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>They
stole Palestine and all its resources and target children in their
quest to finish their ethnic cleansing of Palestine. </span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>They
hold hundreds of undeclared nuclear weapons as a threat to any country
in the Middle East that dares challenge their power.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>They
(AIPAC) have complete control of the US Congress via a corrupt campaign
finance system rife with money.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>The
Israeli mafia is far more powerful than the Hollywood created Italian
mafia.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>They
put Obama in power via Bnai Brith and the Chicago Jewish machine ...
starting with General Dynamics..</span></div>
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plan to control the Middle East has failed but not for a lack of trying.</span></div>
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What is there to understand?<br clear="none">
Jews have a culture that revolves around study, learning and seeking
the truth, they study hard and work hard. They are good in math,
finance and just about everything else, except sports. They, when given
a chance, succeed and rise to the top of many organizations and
professions. Medicine and the sciences are just two besides finance. <br clear="none">
Many like Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn choose academia, many like Amy
Goodman, Glen Greenwald choose journalism. I could go on and on. They
like the Chinese throughout S.E. Asia, are successful and though some
are greedy assholes like the ones you referred to, there are probably
more greedy assholes that are WASPS or Catholics. There are more people
of Jewish origin that prefer the battle against oppression, having been
in the vanguard of most movements including being the majority of
whites during the civil rights movement. Maybe its because like their
counterparts, the Chinese, they don't focus on sports, and fun, as so
many other cultures do. My Jewish friends and room-mates pointed out
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You know we're in a economic downturn when people start blaming "groups
or individuals" other than the real perpetrators, it would be nice and
easy if it was a conspiracy of a group of men, but unfortunately its
not. Its the system, and the concept that economic growth benefits all.
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Israel are Evangelicals. See: "Vice", and Max Blumenthal's latest
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] Zionist idol Lev Dobriansky and
Leo Strauss eagerly leering at Russian Federation<br clear="none">
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<div><span>Well, thank you very much Mr. Gehrig for giving me an
opportunity to respond...</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>I'm just trying to
understand corporate fraud and fraudsters and keep running into Jewish
/ Zionists.....</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>Most of the principles in
the Keating Savings and Loan scandal were Jewish, Michael Milken and
Ivan Boesky come to mind.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>Marcus Agius, who stepped
down from Barclays Bank in the Libor scandal is married to a Rothschild.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>And Madoff..... enough </span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>All the major players in
the recent Housing Meltdown scandal were heads of Jewish controlled
banks...none of which lost their jobs, in fact were promoted and got
fat bonuses.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>see</span></div>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span> </span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20.79px; font-family: Georgia,serif; font-size: 10pt;">The
high-profile role played by </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153); line-height: 20.79px; font-family: Georgia,serif; font-size: 10pt; text-decoration: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" target="_blank" href="http://www.radioislam.org/thetruth/22wallst.htm">Jews
on Wall Street</a><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20.79px; font-family: Georgia,serif; font-size: 10pt;"> has
never been a secret. Many of the wheelers and dealers responsible for
shaping the current US financial system are Jewish, including former
AIG CEO Hank Greenberg, former Citcigroup CEO Sandy Weill,
recently-retired Lehman Bros. CEO Richard Fuld, former Fed chairman
Alan Greenspan, former Treasury Secretary Bob Rubin, current Fed
chairman Ben Bernanke,etc. One of the "</span><a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153); line-height: 20.79px; font-family: Georgia,serif; font-size: 10pt; text-decoration: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" target="_blank" href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/francis/archive/2008/10/06/wall-street-s-wmd.aspx">weapons
of mass destruction</a><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20.79px; font-family: Georgia,serif; font-size: 10pt;">"
described by the legendary investor Warren Buffet is the </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153); line-height: 20.79px; font-family: Georgia,serif; font-size: 10pt; text-decoration: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" target="_blank" href="http://www.riazhaq.com/2008/10/credit-markets-expecting-pakistan.html">Credit
Default Swap</a><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20.79px; font-family: Georgia,serif; font-size: 10pt;">.
Greenberg's AIG is the biggest purveyor of CDS. In spite of the
warnings by Buffet in 2006, Greenspan and his successor Bernanke argued
against regulating derivatives such as credit default swaps. </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153); line-height: 20.79px; font-family: Georgia,serif; font-size: 10pt; text-decoration: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" target="_blank" href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/30/magazines/fortune/varchaver_derivatives_short.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008093012">Unregulated
financial derivatives</a><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20.79px; font-family: Georgia,serif; font-size: 10pt;"> are
now considered the biggest cause of the financial collapse.</span></div>
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check out this chart .... the looooooong blue line is Jewish enrollment
in elite colleges.... who go on to play in Wall Street.</span></div>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>These were the top four
scandals of the last twenty years...and involved trillions of dollars...</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>I just want to understand
this and maybe predict where they are going to strike next.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>Well, I believe they were
involved in 9/11 also... but that verdict has not been read YET.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>I would gladly listen to
anyone who could prove me wrong.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>It doesn't matter whether
they are Jewish are little purple aliens from on of Jupiter's moons...I
just want to understand and consolidate the conclusions I've settled on
at this point.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>Thank you again, Mr. Gehrig</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span>Steve Francis</span></div>
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