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You certainly are in no danger of being nice,<br>
let alone extra, .., nice.<br>
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Really you speak of raciss and bigots as if they are a bad thing.<br>
That seems a bit bigoted and racist to me the way that you <br>
attack them. A little love and understanding might help you.<br>
<br>
Francis brings up some legitimate questions.<br>
<br>
There are organizations led by "semites" that have a negative <br>
influence in your American society and therefore an impact on<br>
the world as well. It's pointless to deny the negative impact<br>
of group like the ADL. Francis says that the Zionists are<br>
urging war in the middle east. That is likewise undeniable.<br>
<br>
It is not reasonable to say that it is antisemitic to oppose<br>
radical Zionism and the ADL just because these group are<br>
led by "Jews".<br>
<br>
That's like saying that Obot is a jerk because his is black or <br>
because he is a mulatto. His race or lack of a any race is irrelevant<br>
to examination of his policy and actions.<br>
<br>
On 5/22/2014 5:18 AM, David Gehrig wrote:
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<div>There will always be those who blame antisemitism on the Jews,
just as there are those who blame other forms of racism on their
targets. It's very sloppy thinking and you seem to be leaning very
close to joining their ranks here.</div>
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<div>The cause of racism is racists. The cause of bigotry is bigots.
Their problem, their faulty thought patterns, their moral weaknesses.
The Jews are not by any means morally obligated to make
extra-super-super-super-nice in order to win over neanderthal racists,
and it's ridiculous to suggest that it's fundamentally a PR problem,
and the onus is on the Jews to solve it.</div>
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<div>When something as horrendous as Steve Francis comes along, with
his Holocaust denial and his Big Goddamn Jew Conspiracy horseshit, then
hell yeah, I'm going to be uppity, and hell yeah I'm going to be loud,
and hell no, I'm not going to feel constrained to mute myself down
because of your pearl clutching.</div>
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@%<</div>
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On May 21, 2014, at 3:54 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" via Peace-discuss
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I think that Karen's approach is more effective.<br>
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She points out the goodness and utility of "semites" and <br>
instructs that every net can bring up good and bad fish.<br>
<br>
Shem had lots of children it seems, even more than Abraham,<br>
so the "semites" are a larger group than those who recoil<br>
from what they call anti-semitism. I am not sure that Shem<br>
would take it all that personally.<br>
<br>
The "semites" (the in-quotes ones) seem to have public relations
problem. <br>
Rather than attacking antisemitism with creative name-calling, it would<br>
seem to be more useful to have a positive PR program.<br>
<br>
Since the children of Ishmael are getting a lot of bad PR, it might<br>
be good to consider semites collectively. Maybe some some<br>
bumper stickers, t-shirts, and some positive slogans...<br>
<br>
"Semites are NIFTY"<br>
<br>
"Semites have Sand".<br>
<br>
I am sure other promotable positive attributes come to mind.<br>
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On 5/22/2014 4:18 AM, David Gehrig via Peace-discuss wrote:
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<div>Well, given that it's about the biggest pile of crap ever
assembled, I can understand why you've mistaken it for a mountain --
except for the racist stench, which you alone don't seem to notice.</div>
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<div>You've got that special magic combination of perfect
sureness
and perfect ignorance when it comes to the Jews. Please stop spewing
your racism on this list, where you have exactly zero support.<br>
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@%<</div>
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On May 21, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Stephen Francis <<a
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