<div dir="ltr"><div>Stephen, </div><div> </div><div>You live in a very nasty, dangerous FANTASY world - if you really would not have enjoyed being a storm trooper in Nazi Germany, you really should look at yourself in a mirror and change! Just saw the movie A Coffee in Berlin last night - there is a scene near the end where an older man describes his father taking him out to pick up stones and smash windows. You should watch that and think because seriously, you don't seem to be doing much of that in your lemming world.</div>
<div> </div><div>Roger</div><div> </div><div>ref - <a href="http://www.musicboxfilms.com/a-coffee-in-berlin-movies-79.php">http://www.musicboxfilms.com/a-coffee-in-berlin-movies-79.php</a></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><span>The deligitimization effort, 9/11 Truth, BDS, refusal to recognize Israel's existence and the exposure of the Holocaust hoax ARE the only ways to really pressure Israel to make any substantial changes. </span></div>
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behavior is just ineffective dribble.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span>I understand yours and most people's position on the Holocaust and am just 'NOT preaching to the choir'.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span>I'll back off on the Holocaust subject only because it is saturated to the point of ad nauseum at this point.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span>There are plenty of other ways that are more subtle, digestible and more
effective in making my point.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span>There are highly relevant connections between the people running Obama, the Bush Crime Family, Soros, Neocons, and Zionists past and present. Those people are operating under the same rules that created the Holocaust hoax and are still profiting from them.</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Just look to Ukraine, Syria, Libya and Iraq for starters. The real motives behind these past and present events are not discussed in the MSM. It's all connected.</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>I've got to take a break from this list and just do research for a while so as to not annoy people who are too set in their beliefs.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Monday, June 23, 2014 1:19 PM, Stan via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div>
<br><br> <div><div><div><div>Thank you Stuart. We can not change the past. It is what it is. We just might be able to change the future by focusing on that and letting the past be in the past.</div><div><br></div><div><font style="color:rgb(51,51,51)"><i>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID</i></font></div>
</div><br><br>Stuart Levy via OccupyCU <<a href="mailto:occupycu@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">occupycu@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>I don't know about others here, but I'm really tired of
hearing about <br>the Nazi holocaust, pro or con.<br><br>Stephen and David, could you please stop pushing each others' buttons? <br>Or if you must, please take your discussion *off these mailing lists*.<br><br>Personally I don't take the issue much more seriously than I do advocacy <br>
for a geocentric universe. I prefer the Copernican model, but I'm not <br>going to waste time in public defending it. There are open questions <br>in astronomy but that isn't among them. There is plenty of room to be <br>
critical of the current Israeli government (and of the US' enabling of <br>its colonial behavior) without supposing that the number of Jews killed <br>by Germany had been insignificant.<br><br>We have more important things to talk about, for heaven's sake. Instead <br>
of flame wars, can we talk about what is happening in, and what we can <br>do to oppose, real, present, and impending
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