<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Sanders is not a Democrat.<div><br></div><div>Chief among those guys is the child-killer in the White House.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 13, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Stan <<a href="mailto:swag901@ymail.com">swag901@ymail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Yes they do have an anti war wing. It is called Berny Sanders.</div><div>The Dems have been co opted by guys that want to split the anti war Dems out of the Democratic Party.</div></div><br><br>"C. G. Estabrook" <<a href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>'We' are not doing much of a job. The Republican party has an anti-war wing, but Obama has co-opted the Democrats'.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Stan via OccupyCU <<a href="mailto:occupycu@lists.chambana.net">occupycu@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>So you agree we need to take back the Democratic Party. Thanks</div><div><br></div><div><font style="color:#333333"><i>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID</i></font></div></div><br><br>"C. G. Estabrook" <<a href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>The Tea Party is the best thing that's happened to the Democrats recently. <div><br></div><div>They can run against it vociferously while continuing to implement neoconservative policies (killing people abroad) and neoliberal policies (impoverishing people at home), both for the profits of the 1%. <div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On Jul 12, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Stan via OccupyCU <<a href="mailto:occupycu@lists.chambana.net">occupycu@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div>CC: </div></div><br><div><div>Many good points here. The most extreme conservatives have wrapped themselves in the Tea Party and become a driving force in the Republican Party. We need to join together and take back the Democratic Party in a similar way and move the Democratic Party to a more pro democracy party than it is today.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br>"C. G. Estabrook via OccupyCU" <<a href="mailto:occupycu@lists.chambana.net">occupycu@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br><br><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;">We might quibble over the usage of terms like 'fascist,' but this account is clearly accurate - and important. </span><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;"><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;"><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;">Lacking an accurate analysis, the best will in the world can choose the right course only by accident. </span><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;"><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;"><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;">--CGE</span><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;"><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;"><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;">On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:12 PM, ewjohnson via Peace-discuss <</span><a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;">> wrote:</span><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;"><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;"><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;">The US is a fascist state managed by a well entrenched oligarchy.<br><br>The oligarchy does definitely fear that an organized uprising of the people<br>may weaken and erode its position resulting in haemorrhage of money,<br>power, and territory.<br><br>The oligarchy manages the world's largest propaganda and opinion-shaping<br>and panem et circenses machine that uses every possible measure to achieve its<br>goals in mollifying the masses and nullifying any effective negativity.<br><br>The oligarchy has chosen to deflect political pressures by allowing the <br>establishment of a pair of ruling factions. The two ruling factions are<br>actually essentially the same but the members and supporters and operatives<br>of each faction believe that they are poles apart in their ideology and goodness,<br>much like the rival teams and their fans in a sporting contest. Some of them<br>are true believers in their parties and it is downright comical to to observe<br>them in motion. Dog-fighting and cock-fighting are considered to be too<br>brutish for the sensitive and cultured society. Other outlets are provided.<br><br>A complex system of rules and regulations prevents the entrance of significant<br>new factions that might be supported by the people themselves. For example<br>the people are encouraged to vote as if it were a patriotic duty, but the candidates<br>are selected and supported by the oligarchy and its fascist and crony capitalist network,<br>such that in general it would not matter much who was elected, because the system<br>has been established to be robust against change. The oligarchy has recognized that<br>its power and control are not absolute and it is careful not to overextend the most <br>extreme measures of its force domestically due to fear of a destabilizing outcome.<br><br>The oligarchy extends its tentacles around the world.<br><br>Like a daemon that has wrapped itself around the spine of its host and <br>has interfaced with the host's body control systems and higher functions,<br>the daemonic oligarchy has made the people dependent upon it such<br>that an eviction notice would evoke tremulous and even catastrophic<br>consequences. The natural guards of liberty have been perverted<br>unto the protection of the status quo.<br><br>Violent overthrow seems a possible recourse. However, a organized<br>violent uprising or even the use of passive force by the people is met<br>with sudden repression by the police state. Afterwards the entrenched<br>political parties are summoned in to vacuum up any energy generated<br>by a new uprising.<br><br>It is disturbing to see activists getting their energies sucked up by the Borg<br>of one of the sham political parties or the other one.<br><br></blockquote><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;">###</span><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;"><br></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>OccupyCU mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OccupyCU@lists.chambana.net">OccupyCU@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/occupycu">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/occupycu</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>