<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div class="" style="">I am in full agreement with all the main points of Professor Steven Salaita's comments that I have read so far, which should not surprise most of the members of the Peace-discuss list including Mr. Gehrig. I just enter the issues from a direction.</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">As most are aware, I focus on relating 9/11 Truth, JFK assassination and Holocaust revision, in that there are common threads (...the Bush Crime family, neocons, British and Saudis) throughout these events and that the current Zionist ethnic cleansing operations in Palestine are just a chapter in this long tragic saga that could also be called 'the birth and possible death of the State of Israel'.</div><div class="" style=""><br class=""
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founder of modern Zionism, giving birth to Hitler".... (enough said to make my point).</div><div class="" style=""><a href="http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/07/u-illinois-prof-zionists-partly-to-blame-for-recent-outbursts-of-anti-semitism/" class="" style="">http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/07/u-illinois-prof-zionists-partly-to-blame-for-recent-outbursts-of-anti-semitism/</a></div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">There are many that claim that the argument comparing Israel's murderous treatment of the Palestinians to Hitler's extreme solutions to the 'Jewish problem' (I am a Holocaust revisionist by the way), is an unfair comparison, but I disagree. In fact, I think this is one of the most relevant comparisons in all this discourse. I believe the Zionist ethnic cleansing and murder of Palestinians in order to expand their territory can be compared to Hitler's actions, and the Zionist's actions are clearly
more sinister than Hitler's. </div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">As a Holocaust revisionist (not denier) I believe Hitler truly feared (just as countless cultures over the last 2000 years have) the Jews (Bolsheviks, Communists) and entered into ruthless, calculated expulsion policies in the midst of a two-front war that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews who were just a small minority in the tens of millions of WWII victims.</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">The creation of Israel was truly dependent on the Holocaust in many many ways.</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">To ask how the Jewish Zionists now could possibly treat the Palestinians the way they do in light of the persecution they claim to have suffered is an absolutely core question that needs to be thoroughly analyzed. It utterly
exposes a Zionist inconsistency that is inescapable in its importance. Nazi / Zionist collaboration in WWII is inescapably a reality. The quest for the creation of Israel began decades before the supposed Holocaust. They had to physically remove or kill the Palestinians and did.</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">To frame all this in the context of FS and AF, 9/11 Truth is a highly scientific-evidence based effort that is utterly legitimate, although highly suppressed in the MSM because it implicates Zionists, neocons, Saudis and the British. Vigorous efforts in NYC (NYC CAN), Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and thousands more are succeeding and growing.</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">On a local basis, in a college town with a substantial university Jewish population, the mood and discourse concerning challenging the Holocaust, JFK and 9/11
official stories is typically negative and accusations of antisemitism abound (because so many Zionists are implicated in the 9/11 crime), but on a global basis skepticism for the official versions is widespread, growing and is contributing to the worldwide hatred of Israel, BDS is working and global rallies (and local) are multiplying.</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span></div><div class="" style="">The Palestinians have been backed into a corner, are fighting mad and have nothing to lose. The concepts of AF and FS are probably not on their minds.</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size:
12pt;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <font size="2" face="Arial" class="" style=""> On Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:36 AM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net> wrote:<br class="" style=""> </font> </div> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <div class="" style=""><div id="yiv1254149424" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;" class="">"...AWARE is morally culpable for what it chooses to distribute [= allows to be posted to its email list?] </div><div style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;" class="">"...doing so completely negates AWARE's claim to be an anti-racist organization."</div></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div>Completely? Come on, David. That's nonsense and you know it. It's an open
list.<div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">If you were concerned about AWARE's bona fides as an anti-racist organization, you might have joined us today at Congressman Davis' office for a demonstration against the administration's support for Israel's murderous racism, on display in Gaza.</div><div class="" style=""> </div><div class="" style="">Will we see you at tomorrow's demo?<br clear="none" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">--CGE<br clear="none" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">'If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.' --Noam Chomsky</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class=""
style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" id="yiv1254149424yqt58413" style=""><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style="">On Jul 24, 2014, at 1:23 PM, David Gehrig via Peace-discuss <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="" style="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style="">
</blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="" id="yiv1254149424yqt44938" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style="">The University is a governmental institution, and therefore subject to the Constitution, First Amendment and all, just as UP-TV is. Similarly, Francis's antisemitic ravings are legally protected speech. I will defend his right to say it on the street corner, and on UP-TV. </div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">This mailing list, however, is the product of AWARE. It sets its own editorial policy. There is no legal requirement that Francis be allowed to spew here. He is here entirely on AWARE's sufferance. Therefore AWARE is morally culpable for what it chooses to distribute. It chooses to distribute the antisemitic ravings of a foilhatted loon, up to and including 100% gen-you-wine Nazi propaganda in the last couple
days. </div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">Francis has the right to goosestep his ass off up and down Main Street if he wants. Let him scream all he wants about the Jews who have infiltrated his Post Toasties. He has that right. But that doesn't mean that AWARE has to act as his megaphone. In fact, as I have argued for about a year now, doing so completely negates AWARE's claim to be an anti-racist organization rather than a kaffieklatsch with an open-door-to-neo-Nazis policy. </div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">@%<</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">On Jul 24, 2014, at 8:39 AM, David Green via Peace-discuss <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="" style="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br
clear="none" class="" style=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style=""><div style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:garamond, 'new york', times, serif;font-size:14pt;" class="">It seems to me that one should not have to have the tenure privileges accorded by AF to be accorded FS, however repugnant one's views might be to others.</div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="" style="">Peace-discuss mailing list<br clear="none" class="" style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="" style="">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br clear="none" class="" style="">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div></div></div><br class="" style=""><div class="" id="yqt67781"
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