<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div class="" style="">I'm definitely not accusing you in any way of obscuring my poster...</div><div class="" style="">I'm just suggesting that the Channel 3 person moved her camera to the only place on the corner that placed you and another person in front of my poster. That was her move not yours. I thank you for taking the pic included in this message.</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">The oversized poster was just my way of communicating my belief that there is gatekeeping going on in this community.</div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">In my exchange with CGE, he bailed out of the gatekeeping conversation with a David Gehrig tactic (by the way... Where's David? I miss
him)...by mentioning a Rat from Sumatra or something....</div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">So I just responded with a joke about a conspiracy with Channel 3 censoring my sign. I thought it was curious that she moved her camera. You would have to ask her why she moved the camera. Would she admit that she moved to hide my poster....NO....</div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">but...</div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">A significant question would be: Would Channel 3 actually air a video with a sign that had the term 'ethnic cleansing' and the Israeli national emblem on the same poster. I think not.</div><div class="" style="">Would Channel 3 be ok with 'Free Gaza', or 'Illegal
settlements'.... yes.... they are obvious and innocuous.</div><div class="" style="">Combining Israel and Ethnic Cleansing crosses the line for the MSM... or am I being conspiratorial here....?? That's why I did it and it directly confronts CGE's argument that the reason for Israeli aggression is that Israel is an American aircraft carrier (which is true and significant, but not the most underlying issue in the Middle East.... The creation and existence of Israel itself trumps the 'aircraft carrier'.</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">The best gatekeepers are the one's that get the most support and have the most influence from the very people that they are gatekeeping. CGE matches that description and Chomsky does it on a national basis. </div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="background-color: transparent;"
class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">Ethnic cleansing gets too close to the territorial expansion schemes by Israel....It gets too close to the reasons for the very creation and existence of Israel and how it actually happened and how it is portrayed by Israel.... and deligitimization. Gaza and Operation Protective Edge are symptoms not causes...... the American aircraft carrier is innocuous jawboning. 9/11 Truth is about criminal prosecution of the murder of 3000 people.</div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">Again, the question has to be asked: How could a people who supposedly suffered the 'Holocaust' murder untold thousands of Palestinians who are just trying to reclaim land that was stolen from them. The Zionists real motive is expansion. They are
threatened by 1,800,000 Palestinian refugee/prisoners that they created in their ethnic cleansing of Palestine and only know violence as a means to remedy their 'problem'.</div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><span class="" style=""></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class="">Its roots are in the 'Holocaust', Israel would not exist without it... and the UN partition plan, and the preemptive strike in 1967, the illegal settlements, .... and on and on.</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <font size="2"
face="Arial" class="" style=""> On , Stephen Francis <stephenf1113@yahoo.com> wrote:<br class="" style=""> </font> </div> <br class="" style=""><br class="" style=""> <div class="" style=""><div id="yiv4707463074" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;" class=""><div class="" style="">I'm definitely not accusing you in any way of obscuring my poster...</div><div class="" style="">I'm just suggesting that the Channel 3 person moved her camera to the only place on the corner that placed you and another person in front of my poster. That was her move not yours. I thank you for taking the pic included in this message.</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica,
Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class="">The oversized poster was just my way of communicating my belief that there is gatekeeping going on in this community.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class="">In my exchange with CGE, he bailed out of the gatekeeping conversation with a David Gehrig tactic (by the way... Where's David? I miss him)...by mentioning a Rat from Sumatra or something....</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class="">So I just responded with a joke about a conspiracy with Channel 3 censoring my sign. I thought it was curious that she moved her camera. You would have
to ask her why she moved the camera. Would she admit that she moved to hide my poster....NO....</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class="">but...</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande',
sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class="">A significant question would be: Would Channel 3 actually air a video with a sign that had the term 'ethnic cleansing' and the Israeli national emblem on the same poster. I think not.</div><div class="" style="">Would Channel 3 be ok with 'Free Gaza', or 'Illegal settlements'.... yes.... they are obvious and innocuous.</div><div class="" style="">Combining Israel and Ethnic Cleansing crosses the line for the MSM... or
am I being conspiratorial here....?? That's why I did it and it directly confronts CGE's argument that the reason for Israeli aggression is that Israel is an American aircraft carrier (which is true and significant, but not the most underlying issue in the Middle East.... The creation and existence of Israel itself trumps the 'aircraft carrier'.</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class="">The best gatekeepers are the one's that get the most support and have the most influence from the very people that they are gatekeeping. CGE matches that description and Chomsky does it on a national basis. </div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0,
0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class="">Ethnic cleansing gets too close to the territorial expansion schemes by Israel....It gets too close to the reasons for the very creation and existence of Israel and how it actually happened and how it is portrayed by Israel.... and deligitimization. Gaza and Operation Protective Edge are symptoms not causes...... the American aircraft carrier is innocuous jawboning. 9/11 Truth is about criminal prosecution of the murder of 3000 people.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial,
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class="">Again, the question has to be asked: How could a people who supposedly suffered the 'Holocaust' murder untold thousands of Palestinians who are just trying to reclaim land that was stolen from them. The Zionists real motive is expansion. They are threatened by 1,800,000 Palestinian refugee/prisoners that they created in their ethnic cleansing of Palestine and only know violence as a means to remedy their 'problem'.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class=""><br
clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;" class="">Its roots are in the 'Holocaust', Israel would not exist without it... and the UN partition plan, and the preemptive strike in 1967, the illegal settlements, .... and on and on.</div> <div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" id="yiv4707463074yqt15190" style=""><div class="" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:10pt;" class=""> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <font size="2" face="Arial" class="" style=""> On Monday, August 4,
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#yiv4707463074 </style><div class="" style=""><div dir="ltr" class="" style="">Stephen<br clear="none" class="" style=""> <br clear="none" class="" style="">If there is any "conspiracy" here, its probably you, paid by the US government to take up our time and distract us from focusing on the problems and issues of today. That's what they do sometimes, infiltrate, disrupt, distract, .........., It was nice that you showed up yesterday at the demonstration with your huge sign, but how do we know it wasn't just to determine who was there? You now have our names, faces, etc. to turn over to your employer.<br clear="none" class="" style="">Just kidding.<br clear="none" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><hr id="yiv4707463074stopSpelling" class="" style="">Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 03:15:09 -0700<br clear="none" class="" style="">To: ewj@pigsqq.org; peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br clear="none" class="" style="">Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss]
Draft flyer (corrected) for AWARE demo, Aug. 3<br clear="none" class="" style="">From: peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""><div class="" id="yiv4707463074yqt24836" style=""><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:14pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="" style=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class="">I was joking about the conspiracy....</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class="">But also thought that a couple of you would take the bait and think I was serious......(maybe :)</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0,
0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class="">I just find it very telling and consistent that 9/11 Truth has been carved out of the peace movement and vilified. This IS a conspiracy whose roots are in NYC.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class="">Over 2200 professional architects and engineers agree that WTC twin towers and WTC7 were
demolished murdering 3000 people. Arab patsies could not have done it the way our corrupt government describes according to the laws of physics. They also cannot find any like professionals to debate them and their work is peer-reviewed unlike NIST.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class="">How can you protest against our government and trust what they say about 9/11.... It doesn't make sense unless their is a hidden agenda behind the inconsistency..... You all know what I think about that.... </div><div style="background-color:transparent;" class=""><span class="" style=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.ae911truth.org/" class="" style="">World Trade Center Building 7
Demolished on 9/11? | AE911Truth</a></span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></span></div><div class="" id="yiv4707463074ecxenhancrCard_0" style="width:450px;" contenteditable="false"><table class="" style="width:450px;height:170px;display:block;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody class="" style=""><tr class="" style=""><td colspan="8" rowspan="1" class="" style="height:1px;font-size:1px;border-collapse:collapse;background-color:rgb(229, 229, 229);"><div class="" style="height:1px;line-height:0px;font-size:1px;background-color:rgb(229, 229, 229);"> </div></td></tr><tr class="" style=""><td colspan="1" rowspan="5" class="" style="width:1px;font-size:1pt;border-collapse:collapse;background-color:rgb(229, 229, 229);"><div class="" style="width:1px;font-size:1pt;background-color:rgb(229, 229, 229);"> </div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="5" class=""
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on 9/11? World Trade Center Building 7 collapsed on 9/11 after the Twin Towers but was never hit by a plane. How?...</div></div></div></td></tr><tr class="" style=""><td colspan="2" rowspan="1" class="" style="height:4px;font-size:0pt;border-collapse:collapse;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div class="" style="height:4px;font-size:4pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div></td></tr><tr class="" style=""><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" class="" style=""><div class="" style="font-size:0pt;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" style="color:black;text-decoration:none;" target="_blank" href="http://www.ae911truth.org/"><span class="" style="line-height:11px;overflow:hidden;display:inline-block;max-height:13px;min-width:85px;max-width:145px;"><span class="" style="vertical-align:middle; font-size: 9px; line-height: 11px; color: #999999; -moz-text-size-adjust: none; -ms-text-size-adjust: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust:none;
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229);"><div class="" style="height:1px;line-height:0px;font-size:1px;background-color:rgb(229, 229, 229);"> </div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div class="" style=""> </div> <div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:14pt;" class=""> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <font face="Arial" size="2" class="" style=""> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 9:58 PM, ewjohnson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net> wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style=""> </font> </div>
<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""> <div class="" style=""><div id="yiv4707463074ecxyiv7538384132" class="" style=""><div class="" style="">
Stephen,<br clear="none" class="" style="">
A lot of what you have to say is useful and relevant.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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CGE has perhaps more than anyone defended your right to say it.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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It isn't very healthy to find a daemon behind every bush.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
(Some of them have several.)<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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<div id="yiv4707463074ecxyiv7538384132yqt09191" class="" style=""><div class="" style="">On 08/04/2014 10:31 AM, Stephen Francis
via Peace-discuss wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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<div class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Here's a conspiracy for ya...</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span class="" style="">Channel 3 sent out a video person to
record the massive crowd of 6-8 people at Church and Neil
demonstration today.</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span class="" style="">She first set up her camera at the North
East corner then moved it to the Northwest corner when she
discovered what my poster said.</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span class="" style="">She deliberately set the camera up in a
new position where two other protesters obscured the view of
my poster....</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span class="" style="">see attachment....</span></div>
<div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span style="color:rgb(205, 35, 44);font-size:18px;font-weight:bold;" class="">Is this a conspiracy or what? .... </span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <font face="Arial" size="2" class="" style=""> On Sunday,
August 3, 2014 6:59 PM, Carl G. Estabrook
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" class="" style=""><galliher@illinois.edu></a> wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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<div class="" style="">You left out the Giant Rat of Sumatra, "a story
for which the world is not yet prepared."<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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On Aug 3, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Stephen Francis <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com" class="" style="">stephenf1113@yahoo.com</a>>
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<div class="" style=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class="">You (CGE) have very
eloquently proven my point. Chomsky's
prominence as an intellectual voice for the
99% is undeniable except for 9/11 Truth.
Coming from a 9/11 Truther, this is a
glaring inconsistency, because the same
people we all rail against did 9/11 in our
view.</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">
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<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;" class=""><span style="font-size:13px;" class="">There is an ever
growing list of dubious 'Commissions' and
cover-ups involving international crimes
that have not passed the stink test
including the Warren Commission, the Dreyfus
Affair, The Gladio Stay Behind Network,
Dimona, </span><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);line-height:19.69px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" class="">The Tuskegee Syphilis
Experiment, Pedophile Priests, Pearl Harbor,
The Looting of Russia after the breakup of
the Soviet Union, The USS Liberty, Iran
Contra, the looting of Japan after WWII,
Murdochs Phone Hacking, the Lincoln
assassination, Holocaust Hoax, WWI and WWII
war profiteering, Stalin's last years,
failed Cuban invasion, the Hollywood
creation called the Italian mafia, ....on
and on... 9/11 has just joined the list.</span></div>
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that 9/11 really was an inside job (Israel,
Saudi Arabia, Britain and the U. S.) Chomsky
is going to have more than egg on his face.
He will be proven an accomplice to the crime.</div>
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Sunday, August 3, 2014 5:44 PM, Carl
G. Estabrook <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" class="" style="">galliher@illinois.edu</a>>
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<div class="" style="">Chomsky
was of course "a nationally recognized
figure" for more than 40 years before
the events of 9/11/2001.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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As a young man he did for the study of
language roughly what Einstein had done
for physics: he established a new model
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In the 1960's he took up writing against
Kennedy's war in SE Asia and quickly
became one of the most important
anti-war voices with articles like "The
Responsibility of Intellectuals" (1967)
<<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19670223.htm" class="" style="">http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19670223.htm</a>>
and "On the Backgrounds of the Pacific
War" (1967) <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.chomsky.info/articles/196709--.htm" class="" style="">http://www.chomsky.info/articles/196709--.htm</a>>
- still very much worth reading. <br clear="none" class="" style="">
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Chomsky is an anarchist (libertarian
socialist, if you prefer). He presents a
convincing case for that position in
"Government in the Future" (1970) <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/2006/11/noam-chomsky-lecture-from-1970-full.html" class="" style="">http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/2006/11/noam-chomsky-lecture-from-1970-full.html</a>>.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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His brief book "9-11" was a best seller
in 2001, because it didn't follow the US
government/media line. Here's a summary:<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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"In '9-11', published in November 2001
and arguably the single most influential
post 9-11 book, internationally renowned
thinker Noam Chomsky bridged the
information gap around the World Trade
Center attacks, cutting through the
tangle of political opportunism,
expedient patriotism, and general
conformity that choked off American
discourse in the months immediately
following. Chomsky placed the attacks in
context, marshaling his deep and nuanced
knowledge of American foreign policy to
trace the history of American political
aggression - in the Middle East and
throughout Latin America as well as in
Indonesia, in Afghanistan, in India and
Pakistan - at the same time warning
against America’s increasing reliance on
military rhetoric and violence in its
response to the attacks, and making the
critical point that the mainstream media
and public intellectuals were failing to
make: any escalation of violence as a
response to violence will inevitably
lead to further, and bloodier, attacks
on innocents in America and around the
world..."<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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Chomsky's politics are such that he is
cordially hated by soi-disant liberals
and progressives. In an interview in
2008 he said, <br clear="none" class="" style="">
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"I should say that the place where I am
most feared and despised is probably in
left liberal intellectual circles. If
you want to see a graphic indication of
this, take a look at one of my favorite
journal covers, which is framed and
posted right outside my door. It’s the
more or less official journal of left
liberal intellectuals, The American
Prospect, and the cover depicts the
terrible circumstances in which they try
to survive – the enormous forces that
are virtually destroying them.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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"In the picture, two figures are
depicted; two faces, sneering and angry.
On one side is Dick Cheney and the
Pentagon, on the other side is me. The
left liberal intellectuals are caught
between these two huge forces. This
depiction is indicative of the paranoia
and concern that there might be some
small break in orthodoxy. The liberal
intellectuals (and not just in the
United States) are typically the
guardians at the gates: we’ll go this
far, but not one millimeter farther; and
it’s terrifying to think that somebody
might go a millimeter farther. This
extends throughout the major media too.
So, yes, the United States is a very
free country, in fact it’s the freest
country in the world. I don’t think
freedom of speech, for example, is
protected anywhere in the world as much
as it is here. But it’s a very managed
society, it’s a business-run society,
carefully managed, with strict doctrinal
requirements and no deviation tolerated
– this would be too dangerous.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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"One of the reasons it’s too dangerous
is that the political establishment,
both political parties and the political
class, is, on many major issues, well to
the right of the population. On health
care, for example, which you’ve written
about for decades, the population is to
the left of the establishment, and has
been so forever. And the same is true
for many other issues. So, permitting
issues to be discussed is threatening,
and permitting deviation from a kind of
party line is dangerous and has to be
carefully controlled."<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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--CGE<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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On Aug 3, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Stephen
Francis via Peace-discuss <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="" style="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>>
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> I accuse CGE of gatekeeping
because of his incessant quoting of
Chomsky. <br clear="none" class="" style="">
> I think Chomsky is in part a
nationally recognized figure because
of his views on 9/11 Truth. <br clear="none" class="" style="">
> In efforts to control the
opposition he plays a perfect role.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
> He is a prolific author and the
vast majority of his positions are
acceptable to 'liberals',
progressives'....etc (whatever they
are?)<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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> Zionists are very fearful of 9/11
Truth because it really threatens
them, so they have to ridicule and
keep people distracted from it.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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> Chomsky keeps people talking and
not acting.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
> 9/11 Truth is about acting. It's
about prosecuting criminals not
jawboning policy. CGE is a
jawboner.....<br clear="none" class="" style="">
> NYC CAN's effort was successful
and they are in a strong position to
challenge any legal obstacles in their
path.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:43
AM, David Johnson <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:davidjohnson1451@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:davidjohnson1451@comcast.net" class="" style="">davidjohnson1451@comcast.net</a>>
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> Good article about Bolivia and
other South American countries pulling
their ambassadors from Israel,<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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> However, the other article is
absolute nonsense. There are no "
left-wing " U.S. Congressmen and
Senators.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
> Only corporate controlled
neo-cons and neo-liberals.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
> The ONLY elected official in the
entire U.S. that I am aware of who is<br clear="none" class="" style="">
> " Left-wing " would be Socialist
City Council member Kshama Sawant in
Seattle.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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> And your continued accusations of
Carl as a " Zionist Gatekeeper " is
absurd and borders on the delusional.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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