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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Roger<BR> <BR>Democracy Now is the only tv news station that is a news station, they are the only one that doesn't disseminate US corporate propaganda, and they employ real investigative journalists. <br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:11:00 -0500<br>To: rwhelbig@gmail.com<br>CC: peace-discuss@anti-war.net<br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Why Israel killed 2,000 (with US permission)<br>From: peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br><br><div>There's some indication that 'Iron Dome' may be a flying Potemkin village - profitable for the usual 'defense contractors' and useful for propagandists in the Israeli & US governments but neither necessary nor effective against the largely home-made rockets from Gaza.</div><div><br></div><div>See now Mark Perry, "Gaza's Bottle Rockets: Why Hamas' Arsenal Wasn't Worth a War," in the current edition of the conservative journal Foreign Affairs, Published by the Council on Foreign Relations, August 3, 2014: <a href="http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141698/mark-perry/gazas-bottle-rockets" target="_blank">http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141698/mark-perry/gazas-bottle-rockets</a></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Aug 8, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Roger Helbig <<a href="mailto:rwhelbig@gmail.com">rwhelbig@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><blockquote>Democracy Now forgot about Democracy long ago - they parrot Hamas<br>propaganda just like you do! When you meet your maker, then you will<br>have to attone for your sins since you fancy yourself some sort of<br>expert on religion - unguided rockets are a terrorist weapon - they<br>are only just aimed in the general direction of the people you want to<br>kill and anything that gets hit gets killed - Iron Dome has<br>effectively shielded them but it can not do so with 100% certainty<br>forever - the Israelis know that and so does any other fool who knows<br>what rockets do. Suggest you learn., Amy Goodman and her pal<br>Gonzalez really pretend to be journalists since they never actually<br>dig out facts that might disagree with their preformed opinions.<br><br>Roger<br><br>On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:20 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss<br><<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote><a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/7/a_hideous_atrocity_noam_chomsky_on" target="_blank">http://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/7/a_hideous_atrocity_noam_chomsky_on</a><br><br>As high Israeli officials concede, Hamas had observed the previous ceasefire<br>for 19 months. The previous episode of "mowing the lawn" was in November<br>2012. There was a ceasefire. The ceasefire terms were that Hamas would not<br>fire rockets--what they call rockets--and Israel would move to end the<br>blockade and stop attacking what they call militants in Gaza. Hamas lived up<br>to it. Israel concedes that.<br><br>In April of this year, an event took place which horrified the Israeli<br>government: A unity agreement was formed between Gaza and the West Bank,<br>between Hamas and Fatah. Israel has been desperately trying to prevent that<br>for a long time. There's a background we could talk about, but it's<br>important. Anyhow, the unity agreement came. Israel was furious. They got<br>even more upset when the U.S. more or less endorsed it, which is a big blow<br>to them. They launched a rampage in the West Bank.<br><br>What was used as a pretext was the brutal murder of three settler teenagers.<br>There was a pretense that they were alive, though they knew they were dead.<br>That allowed a huge--and, of course, they blamed it right away on Hamas. They<br>have yet to produce a particle of evidence, and in fact their own highest<br>leading authorities pointed out right away that the killers were probably<br>from a kind of a rogue clan in Hebron, the Qawasmeh clan, which turns out<br>apparently to be true. They've been a thorn in the sides of Hamas for years.<br>They don't follow their orders.<br><br>But anyway, that gave the opportunity for a rampage in the West Bank,<br>arresting hundreds of people, re-arresting many who had been released,<br>mostly targeted on Hamas. Killings increased. Finally, there was a Hamas<br>response: the so-called rocket attacks. And that gave the opportunity for<br>"mowing the lawn" again.<br><br>###<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss mailing list<br>Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br>https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss<br><br></blockquote></blockquote></div><br><br>_______________________________________________
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