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    <font size="+3">Oh really ?<br>
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      How is it not a reliable source ?<br>
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      What information sources to do you consider reliable ?<br>
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      David Johnson<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/22/2014 9:43 AM, Roger Helbig
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      <div dir="ltr">Global Research is not a reliable source of
        information - it should not be cited as a source by anyone who
        actually cares anything about the truth - David, you should know
        better instead of becoming a propagandist yourself.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 6:59 AM, David
          Johnson via Peace-discuss <span dir="ltr"><<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"
              target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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                    <li style="background:rgb(238,235,228)!important"><big><big><big><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/ferguson-no-justice-in-the-american-police-state/5396838"
                              target="_blank">Ferguson: No Justice in
                              the American Police State</a></big></big></big></li>
                    <li style="background:rgb(238,235,228)!important"><big><big><big><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/comprehensive-data-on-palestinian-deaths-in-gaza-july-6-august-17-2014/5396579"
                              target="_blank">Comprehensive Data on
                              Palestinian Deaths in Gaza (July 6 –
                              August 17, 2014)</a></big></big></big></li>
                    <li style="background:rgb(238,235,228)!important"><big><big><big><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-crisis-continues/5396693"
                              target="_blank">Ukraine Crisis Continues</a></big></big></big></li>
                    <li style="background:rgb(238,235,228)!important"><big><big><big><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-to-start-a-war-the-american-use-of-war-pretext-incidents/28554"
                              target="_blank">How to Start a War: The
                              American Use of War Pretext Incidents</a></big></big></big></li>
                    <li style="background:rgb(238,235,228)!important"><big><big><big><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/provocations-as-pretexts-for-imperial-war-from-pearl-harbor-to-9-11/9063"
                              target="_blank">Provocations as Pretexts
                              for Imperial War: From Pearl Harbor to
                              9/11</a></big></big></big></li>
                    <li style="background:rgb(238,235,228)!important"><big><big><big><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/afghanistan-and-iraq-it-s-the-same-war/5511"
                              target="_blank">Afghanistan and Iraq: it’s
                              the Same War</a></big></big></big></li>
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              <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
              <div><big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                <div><big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <h2><big><big><big>How the US is Arming Both Sides of
                          the Iraqi Conflict</big></big></big></h2>
                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <div><big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                    <div><big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                      <div><big><big><big>By <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                title="Posts by Tyler Durden"
                                href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/tyler-durden"
                                target="_blank">Tyler Durden</a></big></big></big></div>
                      <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                      <div><big><big><big>Global Research, June 13, 2014</big></big></big></div>
                      <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                      <div><big><big><big> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-12/how-us-arming-both-sides-iraqi-conflict"
                                target="_blank">Zero Hedge</a> 12 June
                              2014</big></big></big></div>
                      <big><big><big> </big></big></big></div>
                    <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                    <div><big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                      <div><big><big><big>Region: <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/region/middle-east"
                                target="_blank" rel="tag">Middle East
                                & North Africa</a>, <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/region/usa"
                                target="_blank" rel="tag">USA</a></big></big></big></div>
                      <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                      <div><big><big><big>Theme: <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/theme/9-11-war-on-terrorism"
                                target="_blank" rel="tag">9/11 &
                                'War on Terrorism'</a>, <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/theme/militarization-and-wmd"
                                target="_blank" rel="tag">Militarization
                                and WMD</a></big></big></big></div>
                      <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                      <div><big><big><big>In-depth Report: <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/indepthreport/iraq-report"
                                target="_blank" rel="tag">IRAQ REPORT</a></big></big></big></div>
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                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <div><big><big><big> <span><span
                              style="color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none;display:inline-block"><span><span
style="background-image:url("http://w.sharethis.com/images/facebook_counter.png")"> </span><span><span
                                    style="display:inline-block"><span>651</span></span></span></span></span></span>
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0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:0px;overflow:visible;font-size:11px;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:bottom;display:inline-block">
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                            </span></span> <span><span
                              style="color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none;display:inline-block"><span><span
style="background-image:url("http://w.sharethis.com/images/twitter_counter.png")"> </span><span><span
                                    style="display:inline-block"><span>67</span></span></span></span></span></span>
                          <span><span
                              style="color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none;display:inline-block"><span><span
style="background-image:url("http://w.sharethis.com/images/email_counter.png")"> </span><span><span
                                    style="display:inline-block"><span>11</span></span></span></span></span></span>
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                              style="color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none;display:inline-block"><span><span
style="background-image:url("http://w.sharethis.com/images/sharethis_counter.png")"> </span><span><span
                                    style="display:inline-block"><span>1346</span></span></span></span></span></span>
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                <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                <div><big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <div><big><big><big> <img title="american flag skulls
                            war missile" alt="american flag skulls war
                            missile"
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                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <p><big><big><big><em>Recall a week ago we wrote “<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-04/us-begins-delivering-f-16s-iraq-week-decade-after-it-wiped-out-its-air-force"
                              target="_blank">US Begins Delivering F-16s
                              To Iraq This Week, A Decade After It Wiped
                              Out Iraq’s Air Force</a>” in which we
                            said:</em></big></big></big></p>
                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <blockquote><big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                    <p style="text-align:justify"><big><big><big>… the
                            US will deliver the first of 36 F-16 fighter
                            jets to Iraq in what Baghdad’s envoy to the
                            United States called a “new chapter” in his
                            country’s ability to defend its vast borders
                            with Iran and other neighbors. ….the US
                            earlier in March provided Iraq with some 100
                            Hellfire missiles as well as assault rifles
                            and other ammunition. Then in April the US
                            sent more arms, providing Iraq with 11
                            million rounds of ammunition and other
                            supplies.</big></big></big></p>
                    <big><big><big> </big></big></big></blockquote>
                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <p><big><big><big>It is unknown how many of these have
                          fallen into Al Qaeda/ISIS hands (we do know
                          that at least one Iraqi Black Hawk chopper was
                          captured during the rush for Mosul). What is
                          known is that as PBS Frontline reported two
                          weeks ago, while the administration has denied
                          arming Syrian “rebels”, i.e. the same ISIS
                          militants that have crossed the border and are
                          now fighting in Iraq…</big></big></big></p>
                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <p><big><big><big><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="How
                            the US is Arming Both Sides of the Iraqi
                            Conflict"
href="http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/06/iraq_syria-isis-activity_al_qaeda.jpg"
                            target="_blank" rel="lightbox[5386926]"><img
                              alt=""
                              src="cid:part17.00040900.06060000@comcast.net"
                              height="499" width="500"></a></big></big></big></p>
                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <p><big><big><big>… the reality is that it has. From:
                          “<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-28/someone-lying-obama-says-not-arming-syrian-rebels-yet-syrian-rebels-disagree"
                            target="_blank">Obama Says Not Arming Syrian
                            Rebels, Syrian Rebels Say He Is</a>”</big></big></big></p>
                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <blockquote>
                    <p><big><big><big>… the Syrian rebels themselves say
                            they are already armed and trained by US in
                            the use of sophisticated weapons and
                            fighting techniques, including, one rebel
                            said, “how to finish off soldiers still
                            alive after an ambush.” The interviews are
                            the latest evidence that after more than
                            three years of warfare, the United States
                            has stepped up the provision of lethal aid
                            to the rebels, as PBS notes “it appears the
                            Obama administration is allowing select
                            groups of rebels to receive US-made
                            anti-tank missiles.”  The commander of the
                            unit also told Ali that their American
                            contacts had asked him to bring 80 to 90
                            members of his unit to Ankara for
                            training. One of the fighters said they
                            received three weeks of training in how to
                            conduct ambushes, conduct raids and use
                            their weapons. They also said they received
                            new uniforms and boots. “They trained us to
                            ambush regime or enemy vehicles and cut off
                            the road,” said the fighter, who is
                            identified only as “Hussein.” “They also
                            trained us on how to attack a vehicle, raid
                            it, retrieve information or weapons and
                            munitions, and how to finish off soldiers
                            still alive after an ambush.”</big></big></big></p>
                  </blockquote>
                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <p><big><big><big>To summarize: the US was arming and
                          training the same Al Qaeda/ISIS groups of
                          Jihadists, that it concurrently gave Iraq
                          weapons to fight. And since the Iraq army has
                          so far proven utterly incapable of any
                          resistance, it is now up to US drones to
                          “fight” the same “rebels” that the US itself
                          was collaborating with until a month or so
                          ago.</big></big></big></p>
                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <p><big><big><big>The clear winner here? The US
                          military-industrial complex, of course, as
                          well as the banks who lend money to the
                          governments to fight wars provoked by various
                          “developed nation” spy agencies.</big></big></big></p>
                  <big><big><big> </big></big></big>
                  <p><big><big><big>Collateral damage? Millions of
                          innocent people on the ground in Syria and
                          Iraq, and everywhere else too.</big></big></big></p>
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