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<font size="+3">Oh really ?<br>
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How is it not a reliable source ?<br>
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What information sources to do you consider reliable ?<br>
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David Johnson<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/22/2014 9:43 AM, Roger Helbig
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<div dir="ltr">Global Research is not a reliable source of
information - it should not be cited as a source by anyone who
actually cares anything about the truth - David, you should know
better instead of becoming a propagandist yourself.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 6:59 AM, David
Johnson via Peace-discuss <span dir="ltr"><<a
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the American Police State</a></big></big></big></li>
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href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/comprehensive-data-on-palestinian-deaths-in-gaza-july-6-august-17-2014/5396579"
target="_blank">Comprehensive Data on
Palestinian Deaths in Gaza (July 6 –
August 17, 2014)</a></big></big></big></li>
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target="_blank">How to Start a War: The
American Use of War Pretext Incidents</a></big></big></big></li>
<li style="background:rgb(238,235,228)!important"><big><big><big><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/provocations-as-pretexts-for-imperial-war-from-pearl-harbor-to-9-11/9063"
target="_blank">Provocations as Pretexts
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<li style="background:rgb(238,235,228)!important"><big><big><big><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/afghanistan-and-iraq-it-s-the-same-war/5511"
target="_blank">Afghanistan and Iraq: it’s
the Same War</a></big></big></big></li>
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<h2><big><big><big>How the US is Arming Both Sides of
the Iraqi Conflict</big></big></big></h2>
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<div><big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<div><big><big><big>By <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="Posts by Tyler Durden"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/tyler-durden"
target="_blank">Tyler Durden</a></big></big></big></div>
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<div><big><big><big>Global Research, June 13, 2014</big></big></big></div>
<big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<div><big><big><big> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-12/how-us-arming-both-sides-iraqi-conflict"
target="_blank">Zero Hedge</a> 12 June
2014</big></big></big></div>
<big><big><big> </big></big></big></div>
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<div><big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<div><big><big><big>Region: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/region/middle-east"
target="_blank" rel="tag">Middle East
& North Africa</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/region/usa"
target="_blank" rel="tag">USA</a></big></big></big></div>
<big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<div><big><big><big>Theme: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/theme/9-11-war-on-terrorism"
target="_blank" rel="tag">9/11 &
'War on Terrorism'</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/theme/militarization-and-wmd"
target="_blank" rel="tag">Militarization
and WMD</a></big></big></big></div>
<big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<div><big><big><big>In-depth Report: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/indepthreport/iraq-report"
target="_blank" rel="tag">IRAQ REPORT</a></big></big></big></div>
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<div><big><big><big> <img title="american flag skulls
war missile" alt="american flag skulls war
missile"
src="cid:part15.07060609.06010707@comcast.net"
height="228" width="400"> </big></big></big></div>
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<p><big><big><big><em>Recall a week ago we wrote “<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-04/us-begins-delivering-f-16s-iraq-week-decade-after-it-wiped-out-its-air-force"
target="_blank">US Begins Delivering F-16s
To Iraq This Week, A Decade After It Wiped
Out Iraq’s Air Force</a>” in which we
said:</em></big></big></big></p>
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<blockquote><big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<p style="text-align:justify"><big><big><big>… the
US will deliver the first of 36 F-16 fighter
jets to Iraq in what Baghdad’s envoy to the
United States called a “new chapter” in his
country’s ability to defend its vast borders
with Iran and other neighbors. ….the US
earlier in March provided Iraq with some 100
Hellfire missiles as well as assault rifles
and other ammunition. Then in April the US
sent more arms, providing Iraq with 11
million rounds of ammunition and other
supplies.</big></big></big></p>
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<p><big><big><big>It is unknown how many of these have
fallen into Al Qaeda/ISIS hands (we do know
that at least one Iraqi Black Hawk chopper was
captured during the rush for Mosul). What is
known is that as PBS Frontline reported two
weeks ago, while the administration has denied
arming Syrian “rebels”, i.e. the same ISIS
militants that have crossed the border and are
now fighting in Iraq…</big></big></big></p>
<big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<p><big><big><big><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="How
the US is Arming Both Sides of the Iraqi
Conflict"
href="http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/06/iraq_syria-isis-activity_al_qaeda.jpg"
target="_blank" rel="lightbox[5386926]"><img
alt=""
src="cid:part17.00040900.06060000@comcast.net"
height="499" width="500"></a></big></big></big></p>
<big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<p><big><big><big>… the reality is that it has. From:
“<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-28/someone-lying-obama-says-not-arming-syrian-rebels-yet-syrian-rebels-disagree"
target="_blank">Obama Says Not Arming Syrian
Rebels, Syrian Rebels Say He Is</a>”</big></big></big></p>
<big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<blockquote>
<p><big><big><big>… the Syrian rebels themselves say
they are already armed and trained by US in
the use of sophisticated weapons and
fighting techniques, including, one rebel
said, “how to finish off soldiers still
alive after an ambush.” The interviews are
the latest evidence that after more than
three years of warfare, the United States
has stepped up the provision of lethal aid
to the rebels, as PBS notes “it appears the
Obama administration is allowing select
groups of rebels to receive US-made
anti-tank missiles.” The commander of the
unit also told Ali that their American
contacts had asked him to bring 80 to 90
members of his unit to Ankara for
training. One of the fighters said they
received three weeks of training in how to
conduct ambushes, conduct raids and use
their weapons. They also said they received
new uniforms and boots. “They trained us to
ambush regime or enemy vehicles and cut off
the road,” said the fighter, who is
identified only as “Hussein.” “They also
trained us on how to attack a vehicle, raid
it, retrieve information or weapons and
munitions, and how to finish off soldiers
still alive after an ambush.”</big></big></big></p>
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<big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<p><big><big><big>To summarize: the US was arming and
training the same Al Qaeda/ISIS groups of
Jihadists, that it concurrently gave Iraq
weapons to fight. And since the Iraq army has
so far proven utterly incapable of any
resistance, it is now up to US drones to
“fight” the same “rebels” that the US itself
was collaborating with until a month or so
ago.</big></big></big></p>
<big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<p><big><big><big>The clear winner here? The US
military-industrial complex, of course, as
well as the banks who lend money to the
governments to fight wars provoked by various
“developed nation” spy agencies.</big></big></big></p>
<big><big><big> </big></big></big>
<p><big><big><big>Collateral damage? Millions of
innocent people on the ground in Syria and
Iraq, and everywhere else too.</big></big></big></p>
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