<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">You believe in elves, Wayne? <div><br></div><div>"...Keebler factory of support" may lack a bit in civility, about which we're much concerned in Illinois (and academia) right now, but it sure is funny.</div><div><br></div><div>--CGE<br><div><br><div><div>On Oct 12, 2014, at 11:27 PM, E. W. Johnson <<a href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org">ewj@pigsqq.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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My take on it is that Obots and Obamites in WDC have in fact decided
to intervene<br>
(through it's Turkish toadies) and their machine is trying to whoop
up <br>
support (it ain't astroturf, it's styrofoam in a can) to created
this Keebler factory<br>
of support that is "demanding" that they do what they have already
decided to do.<br>
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Even Stephen Francis and Lars Ulrich know it's wrong.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/13/2014 10:34 AM, C. G. Estabrook
via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div>Bob--</div>
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<div>Have you adopted the awful Samantha Power's R2P? Your group
seems once again to be 'lending critical support' to the Obama
administration's war in the Mideast:</div>
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<div><i>"...to pressure [sic] Turkey to allow Syrian Kurdish
civilians to escape Kobane” </i>- i.e., to open the
recently-closed border - is hardly the same as </div>
<div><i>"...to pressure [sic] Turkey to allow Kurds to defend
[sic] the Syrian Kurdish border town of Kobane..." </i>(with
Turkish troops and/or bombs?)</div>
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<div>Turkey (vis-a-vis the Kurds) has roughly the same relation to
the US as Israel (vis-a-vis the Palestinians). In each case, the
USG could effectively demand the cessation of its client's
oppression of its minority. Instead, the USG continues its
hypocritical calls for 'restraint' while its clients do as they
wish, so long as their actions are consistent with US imperial
control of the region.</div>
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<div>But rescuing the Kurds of Kobane (with US airstrikes) is
roughly similar to rescuing the Yazidis on Mount Sinjar (with US
airstrikes) - an excuse for the continuation of the war that the
US wants in the region <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/iraq-crisis-us-britain-rescue-yazidis-mount-sinjar">http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/iraq-crisis-us-britain-rescue-yazidis-mount-sinjar</a>>. </div>
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<div>The Obama administration is particularly good at inventing
lying excuses for extending their control of the Mideast (and
its energy resources). Their lies are simply sneakier - they
lack the bluff candor of the Bush administration's lies.</div>
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<div>But they seem adequate to garner the support of 'Just Foreign
Policy' and 'MoveOn.' </div>
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<div>The US is by far the power most responsible for mass murder
in Iraq in this century. If our government were in fact
concerned with a 'just foreign policy' in the region - or the
safety of the Kurds - it would take the matter to the Security
Council, as the UN Charter requires: "...the Security Council
... may take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be
necessary to maintain or restore international peace and
security" (Art. 42).</div>
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<div>But the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations have
consistently avoided the requirements of international law
because they knew that their actions were crimes under that law
- as they continue to be. </div>
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<div>If you don't mind the split infinitive, how about a petition
to "Urge President Obama and Members of Congress to strongly
back the U.N. Charter, to which it is committed by treaty, as
the supreme law of the land"?</div>
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<div>--CGE</div>
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<div>On Oct 12, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Robert Naiman <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:noreply@list.moveon.org">noreply@list.moveon.org</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">Dear C G ESTABROOK,<br>
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Press reports say ISIS fighters have captured half of the
Syrian Kurdish town of Kobane, near the Syrian border with
Turkey. U.N. envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura warned Friday
that 12,000 civilians in or near Kobane face massacre if the
town falls to ISIS. [1] In a very rare move for a U.N.
official, de Mistura urged Turkey to allow Kurdish fighters to
cross the border from Turkey to help save Kobane and its
civilian residents from ISIS. <br>
<br>
<strong>Urge President Obama and Members of Congress to
strongly back U.N. envoy for Syria de Mistura’s call on
Turkey to change its policy and save Syrian Kurdish
civilians from massacre by ISIS, by signing and sharing our
petition at MoveOn:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/save-kobane">http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/save-kobane</a><br>
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</strong>Here is the petition text:<br>
<blockquote><strong>“President Obama and U.S. officials,
including Members of Congress, should do everything in
their power to pressure Turkey to allow Kurds to defend
the Syrian Kurdish border town of Kobane from the ISIS
assault, and should do everything in their power to
pressure Turkey to allow Syrian Kurdish civilians to
escape Kobane.” <br>
</strong></blockquote>
UN envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura has warned that 12,000
or so civilians still in or near Kobane, including 700 mainly
elderly people in Kobane's center, "will most likely be
massacred" by ISIS if the town falls to ISIS jihadists.<br>
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De Mistura called on Turkey "to support the deterrent actions
of the coalition through whatever means from their own
territory," and appealed to Turkey to "allow the flow of
volunteers at least, and their equipment to be able to enter
the city to <span>contribute</span> to a self-defense
operation."<br>
<br>
<strong>Urge President Obama and Members of Congress to do
everything in their power to pressure Turkey to help stop
the massacre of Syrian Kurdish civilians in Kobane by
signing and sharing our petition.<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/save-kobane">http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/save-kobane</a><br>
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</strong> Thanks for all you do to help make U.S. foreign
policy more just, Robert Naiman Just Foreign Policy<br>
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References:<br>
1. “Jihadists seize Kurdish HQ in Syria's Kobane, massacre
feared,” Fulya Ozerkan and Sara Hussein, AFP, October 10, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://news.yahoo.com/fighters-capture-kurd-hq-syrias-kobane-monitor-113638651.html">http://news.yahoo.com/fighters-capture-kurd-hq-syrias-kobane-monitor-113638651.html</a>
[Some English-language media transliterate the name of the
town as “Kobani”; we followed the AFP usage in our petition
and alert.] <br>
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