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<td>Re: [Peace-discuss] Warren, Bernie, Hillary: Back
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<td>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 18:45:18 -0500</td>
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<td>David Johnson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:davidjohnson1451@comcast.net"><davidjohnson1451@comcast.net></a></td>
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<td>Robert Naiman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org"><naiman@justforeignpolicy.org></a></td>
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<font size="+3">Sure Bob,<br>
<br>
I see your logic.<br>
<br>
Anyone who is not a neo-liberal democrat is a Trotskyist.<br>
Not that that should be a bad thing, nor being a Maoist, an
Anarchist, a REAL Progressive, a Populist, a Liberation Theology
Catholic, or anyone else who opposes neo-liberal policies. <br>
<br>
What happened to the old Bob Naiman who supported the
anti-neo-liberal governments and policies of Venezuela, Bolivia,
and Ecuador ?<br>
Now you seem to be an Obama / Move-on.org apologist.<br>
<br>
Where has unquestioning support of the democrats gotten us in
the last 20 some years ?<br>
<br>
How did that big campaign to get Chuck Hagel nominated as
Secretary of Defense help anything ?<br>
<br>
The democrats in the last 20 years have not improved things,
look at the FACTS Bob, the democrats have become worse with
every passing year.<br>
Do I need to provide an EXTREMELY long list ?<br>
<br>
David Johnson<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/22/2014 5:23 PM, Robert Naiman
via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">You seem to have the worldview common among young
campus Trotskyists: the masses are poised for revolution, if
only the opportunist labor lieutenants of capital could be
stopped from diverting them into reformism.
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<div>Back on Planet Earth, the handicappers give the
Republicans better than even odds of retaking the Senate. </div>
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<div>But maybe you would see that as a positive development.
After all, as every young Trotskyist knows, Worse Is Better.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Robert Naiman<br>
Policy Director<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Carl
G. Estabrook <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" target="_blank">galliher@illinois.edu</a>></span>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Bob--
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<div>This appears to be another dodgy MoveOn petition in
support of the administration's murderous Mideast
policies.</div>
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<div>Those policies are in the interest of the American
1% (and no one else), who wish to continue their
control of the world economy by dominating Mideast
energy flows.</div>
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<div>It is simply false to say that the US is trying "to
provide assurance to the international community that
Iran will never try to build a nuclear weapon." That
is the made-up reason for US attempts to exert control
over the Iranian economy, particularly its production
and distribution of gas and oil. </div>
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<div>Since Iran rejected US control in 1979, every US
administration up to and including the current one has
sought to reassert it.</div>
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<div>"In 2010, Iran accepted a proposal by Turkey and
Brazil to ship its enriched uranium to Turkey for
storage. In return, the West would provide isotopes
for Iran's medical research reactors. President Obama
furiously denounced Brazil and Turkey for breaking
ranks, and quickly imposed harsher sanctions.
Irritated, Brazil released a letter from Obama in
which he had proposed this arrangement, presumably
assuming that Iran would reject it. The incident
quickly disappeared from view.<br>
<br>
"Also in 2010, the NPT members called for an
international conference to carry forward a
long-standing Arab initiative to establish a zone free
of weapons of mass destruction in the region, to be
held in Helsinki in December 2012. Israel refused to
attend. Iran agreed to do so, unconditionally.<br>
<br>
"The U.S. then announced that the conference was
canceled, reiterating Israel's objections. The Arab
states, the European Parliament and Russia called for
a rapid reconvening of the conference, while the U.N.
General Assembly voted 174-6 to call on Israel to join
the NPT and open its facilities to inspection. Voting
"no" were the United States, Israel, Canada, Marshall
Islands, Micronesia and Palau" - apparently the
"international community" to whom you say "U.S.
negotiators [wish] to provide assurance..."</div>
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<div>Obama, in his usual mendacity, has been quite
consistent in his hostility to Iran, even though his
threats violate the UN Charter: during his campaign
for a Senate seat a decade ago, Obama supported the
possibility of a pre-emptive attack on Iran. On 25
September 2004, the Chicago Tribune wrote, "…the
United States should not rule out military strikes to
destroy nuclear production sites in Iran, Obama said …
‘having a radical Muslim theocracy in possession of
nuclear weapons is worse [than] us launching some
missile strikes into Iran…’ he said." </div>
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<div>Instead of this dishonest MoveOn petition, we
should demand Obama lift the sanctions on Iran, stop
the bombing and the continuing threats (he's now
bombed eight predominately Muslim countries - two
more than George Bush), and remove US troops from the
Middle East. That alone will "de-escalate tensions in
the Middle East, helping us prevent war in the
future.”</div>
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<div>Regards, CGE</div>
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<div>On Oct 22, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Robert Naiman
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">noreply@list.moveon.org</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">Dear C. G. Estabrook,<br>
<br>
U.S. negotiators are facing a <strong>November 24
deadline</strong> to try to conclude a
comprehensive agreement with Iran on constraining
its nuclear program to provide assurance to the
international community that Iran will never try
to build a nuclear weapon. The <em>New York Times</em>
recently reported [1] that the White House has
decided to try to avoid in the near future a
Congressional vote on any agreement reached with
Iran, using the President’s power – granted by
Congress – to suspend U.S. sanctions on Iran,
rather than seeking legislation to repeal them. <strong>The
U.S. Treasury Department has concluded that
President Obama has the legal authority to
suspend the vast majority of U.S. sanctions on
Iran without seeking a vote by Congress.</strong>
It is widely accepted by experts that suspending
U.S. sanctions on Iran will be a necessary
ingredient of a diplomatic agreement that
constrains Iran's nuclear program sufficiently to
provide assurance that Iran will never build a
nuclear weapon. <br>
<br>
But some Members of Congress, like Republican
Senator Mark Kirk and Republican Senator John
Cornyn, <strong>want to derail President Obama
and Secretary of State Kerry’s efforts to
achieve a diplomatic agreement</strong>. [2]<br>
<br>
If key Democratic leaders don’t support President
Obama’s diplomacy, an agreement with Iran will be
much less likely. <strong>Urge key Democratic
leaders to support President Obama’s diplomacy
with Iran by signing our petition at MoveOn:</strong><br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/key-Dems-Iran-diplomacy"
target="_blank"><strong>http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/key-Dems-Iran-diplomacy</strong></a><br>
<br>
Here’s the text of our petition:<br>
<blockquote><strong>“Democratic leaders Sen.
Elizabeth Warren, Sen. Bernie Sanders, and
former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
should strongly back President Obama's efforts
to negotiate a comprehensive agreement with
Iran on constraining its nuclear program by
the November 24 deadline, thereby ensuring
that Iran will not build a nuclear weapon and
de-escalating tensions in the Middle East,
helping us prevent war in the future.”</strong></blockquote>
<br>
President Obama will have a brief window of
opportunity after the U.S. election in November to
negotiate an agreement – <strong>a window of
opportunity that may not come again</strong>.
[3] When President Obama and Secretary of State
Kerry negotiated the interim nuclear deal with
Iran, Senator Warren [4] and Senator Sanders [5]
were early supporters. Former Secretary of State
Clinton attacked the deal through surrogates [6],
only finally embracing the deal [7] when opponents
of the deal were about to concede. [8]<br>
<br>
<strong>Support from key Democratic leaders will
help thwart efforts by Republicans to sabotage
President Obama’s diplomatic efforts. Urge key
Democratic leaders to support President Obama’s
diplomacy with Iran by signing and sharing our
petition:</strong><br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/key-Dems-Iran-diplomacy"
target="_blank"><strong>http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/key-Dems-Iran-diplomacy</strong></a><br>
<br>
Thanks for all you do to support diplomacy and
help prevent war,<br>
<br>
Robert Naiman<br>
Just Foreign Policy<br>
<br>
References:<br>
1. “Obama Sees an Iran Deal That Could Avoid
Congress,” David Sanger, New York Times, 10/19/14,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/us/politics/obama-sees-an-iran-deal-that-could-avoid-congress-.html"
target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/us/politics/obama-sees-an-iran-deal-that-could-avoid-congress-.html</a><br>
2. “Report: White House to bypass Congress on Iran
nuclear deal,” Peter Sullivan, The Hill, 10/20/14,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/221231-report-white-house-to-bypass-congress-on-iran-deal"
target="_blank">http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/221231-report-white-house-to-bypass-congress-on-iran-deal</a><br>
3. “A Nuclear Deal, Now or Never,” Vali Nasr, New
York Times, 10/21/14, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/22/opinion/vali-nasr-a-nuclear-deal-now-or-never.html"
target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/22/opinion/vali-nasr-a-nuclear-deal-now-or-never.html</a><br>
4. “Senator Elizabeth Warren Endorses Interim Iran
Nuclear Deal,” Robert Naiman, Huffington Post,
12/13/2013, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/senator-elizabeth-warren-_b_4437313.html"
target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/senator-elizabeth-warren-_b_4437313.html</a><br>
5. “Leahy opposes new sanctions on Iran; Sanders:
Increased sanctions might help hardliners,” Nicole
Gaudiano, Burlington Free Press, 1/6/14, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20140106/NEWS03/301060029/Leahy-opposes-new-sanctions-on-Iran"
target="_blank">http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20140106/NEWS03/301060029/Leahy-opposes-new-sanctions-on-Iran</a><br>
6. “Does Hillary's Silence on Iran Deal Show
Neocon Influence on Her Presidential Run?” Robert
Naiman, Huffington Post, 12/2/13, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/does-hillarys-silence-on-_b_4372394.html"
target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/does-hillarys-silence-on-_b_4372394.html</a><br>
7. “Hillary Clinton backs Obama on Iran
sanctions,” Maggie Haberman, Politico, 2/2/14, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/hillary-clinton-iran-102997.html"
target="_blank">http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/hillary-clinton-iran-102997.html</a><br>
8. “Bill Clinton, AIPAC urge delay on Iran
sanctions,” Manu Raju and Burgess Everett,
Politico, 2/6/14, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/bill-clinton-iran-sanctions-103219.html"
target="_blank">http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/bill-clinton-iran-sanctions-103219.html</a><br>
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