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The problem is that it is not really a sincere call for action<br>
but rather a sort of cheerleading to drum up support<br>
for what is already cut-and-dried.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/20/2014 07:27 AM, Karen Medina
via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think there are two different issues here.
<div>One issue is the amount of power that has been taken away
from the people affected by the decisions.</div>
<div>The other issue is war and the legality of war.</div>
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<div>Robert is correct in calling for people to act on the first
issue.</div>
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<div>-<span class="" style="font-family:Cambria;font-size:16px">Karen
Evans <s>Medina</s> Levy</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM, C. G.
Estabrook via Peace-discuss <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>We should urge our representative and senators to
oppose any funding for war, period.</div>
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<div>A Congressional "authorization for the use of force"
cannot make mass murder legal under international law.</div>
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<div>America's criminal war-making (and provocations of
Russia and China) is in aid of the economic advantage of
the American one percent - via their control of the
Eurasian economy - and monstrously dangerous to the rest
of the world, including Americans, who pay for it. </div>
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<div>We should instead call upon the Congress to institute
impeachment proceedings against the war-makers in the US
government, starting with the President. </div>
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<div>On Nov 17, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Robert Naiman <<a
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<p>Dear C. G. Estabrook,<span class=""><br>
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The Pentagon has requested $5 billion in new
funding for the new war in Iraq and Syria. <strong>But
Congress has not yet debated and voted on an
authorization for the use of military force</strong> [AUMF]
[1], and <strong>budget watchdog groups say the
Pentagon can easily find the money in the
massive budgets it already has</strong>. [2] <br>
<br>
<strong>Urge your Representative and Senators to
oppose</strong> any new funding for war in Iraq
and Syria until Congress has debated and voted on
an authorization for the use of force and the
Pentagon has explained why it needs more money on
top of the massive budgets it already has, <strong>by
signing our petition at MoveOn</strong>.<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/no-war-money-without-debate"
target="_blank"><strong>http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/no-war-money-without-debate</strong></a><br>
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I explained why the idea of Congress giving the
Pentagon new tax dollars for the war before
Congress debates and votes on an AUMF is
outrageous six ways from Sunday in a piece at
Truthout. <strong>You can read and share that
here:</strong><br>
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href="http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/27478-5-billion-for-iraq-syria-war-three-reasons-to-oppose"
target="_blank"><strong>http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/27478-5-billion-for-iraq-syria-war-three-reasons-to-oppose</strong></a><br>
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Here is the text of our petition at MoveOn:</span></p>
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<blockquote>"Members of Congress should oppose any
new funding for war in Iraq and Syria until
Congress has debated and voted on an Authorization
for the Use of Military Force [AUMF] and the
Pentagon has explained why it needs more money on
top of the massive budgets it already has."</blockquote>
<strong>Urge your Representative and Senators to
stand up for transparency and accountability by
signing and sharing our petition:</strong> <br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/no-war-money-without-debate"
target="_blank"><strong>http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/no-war-money-without-debate</strong></a> <br>
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Thanks for all you do to help end, limit, and
constrain war using democracy and the rule of law,<br>
<br>
Robert Naiman<br>
Just Foreign Policy<br>
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References: <br>
1. “Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine: We're in ISIS war
'without legal authority,'” Laura Koran and Ashley
Killough, CNN, November 12, 2014,<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/12/politics/tim-kaine-isis/index.html"
target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/12/politics/tim-kaine-isis/index.html</a><br>
2. “The Pentagon's Budget Bamboozle: Lawmakers
should look very closely at the latest Pentagon
funding request,” Ryan Alexander, Taxpayers for
Common Sense, U.S. News & World Report, Nov. 12,
2014, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/11/12/congress-should-look-closely-at-pentagon-overseas-funding-requests"
target="_blank">http://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/11/12/congress-should-look-closely-at-pentagon-overseas-funding-requests</a>
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