<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><h1 class="title" id="page-title" style="font-size: 39px; line-height: 1; margin: 0px; font-family: proxima-nova, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Flashback: Biden said US troops would leave Afghanistan 'come hell or high water'</h1><div class="clearer" style="clear: both; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></div><article class="node-225107 node node-article view-mode-full clearfix" about="/policy/defense/225107-flashback-biden-promised-us-troops-would-leave-afghanistan-by-2014" typeof="sioc:Item foaf:Document" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><div class="clearfix"><div class="addthis_sharing_toolbox" data-url="http://thehill.com/policy/defense/225107-flashback-biden-promised-us-troops-would-leave-afghanistan-by-2014" data-title="Flashback: Biden said US troops would leave Afghanistan 'come hell or high water'" style="float: left; margin: 20px 0px;"><div id="atstbx" class="at-share-tbx-element addthis_20x20_style addthis-smartlayers animated at4-show" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; -webkit-animation: 1s both; opacity: 1 !important;"><a class="at-share-btn at-svc-facebook" style="background-image: none; transition: none; -webkit-transition: none; margin: 0px 2px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span class="at300bs at15nc at15t_facebook" title="Facebook" style="background-image: url(http://ct1.addthis.com/static/r07/widget/img/widget008.old.20.top.png); cursor: pointer; overflow: hidden; display: inline-block; height: 20px !important; width: 20px !important; line-height: 20px !important; background-position: 0px -120px !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"></span></a><span class="at_flat_counter" style="height: 21px; margin: 0px 8px; padding: 0px 10px; line-height: 22px; font-size: 11px; position: relative; left: -1px; display: inline-block; background-color: rgb(235, 235, 235); text-transform: uppercase; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(50, 54, 59); cursor: pointer; vertical-align: top; transition: all 0.2s ease; -webkit-transition: all 0.2s ease; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">23</span><a class="at-share-btn at-svc-google_plusone_share" style="background-image: none; transition: none; -webkit-transition: none; margin: 0px 2px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span class="at300bs at15nc at15t_google_plusone_share" title="Google+" style="background-image: url(http://ct1.addthis.com/static/r07/widget/img/widget008.old.20.top.png); cursor: pointer; overflow: hidden; display: inline-block; height: 20px !important; width: 20px !important; line-height: 20px !important; background-position: 0px -220px !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"></span></a><a class="at-share-btn at-svc-twitter" style="background-image: none; transition: none; -webkit-transition: none; margin: 0px 2px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span class="at300bs at15nc at15t_twitter" title="Twitter" style="background-image: url(http://ct1.addthis.com/static/r07/widget/img/widget008.old.20.top.png); cursor: pointer; overflow: hidden; display: inline-block; height: 20px !important; width: 20px !important; line-height: 20px !important; background-position: 0px -500px !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"></span></a><span class="at_flat_counter" style="height: 21px; margin: 0px 8px; padding: 0px 10px; line-height: 22px; font-size: 11px; position: relative; left: -1px; display: inline-block; background-color: rgb(235, 235, 235); text-transform: uppercase; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(50, 54, 59); cursor: pointer; vertical-align: top; transition: all 0.2s ease; -webkit-transition: all 0.2s ease; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">23</span><a class="at-share-btn at-svc-linkedin" style="background-image: none; transition: none; -webkit-transition: none; margin: 0px 2px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span class="at300bs at15nc at15t_linkedin" title="LinkedIn" style="background-image: url(http://ct1.addthis.com/static/r07/widget/img/widget008.old.20.top.png); cursor: pointer; overflow: hidden; display: inline-block; height: 20px !important; width: 20px !important; line-height: 20px !important; background-position: 0px -260px !important; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"></span></a></div></div><div class="share" style="float: left; margin: 20px 0px;"><a href="mailto:?subject=TheHill.com%3A%20%20data-title%3D%22Flashback%3A%20Biden%20said%20US%20troops%20would%20leave%20Afghanistan%20%27come%20hell%20or%20high%20water%27%22&body=From%20TheHill.com%3A%20%0A%0AFour%20years%20ago%2C%20Biden%20promised%20all%20troops%20would%20leave%20within%20four%20years.%0A%0Ahttp%3A//thehill.com/policy/defense/225107-flashback-biden-promised-us-troops-would-leave-afghanistan-by-2014" class="email" style="color: transparent; text-decoration: none; outline: none; display: block; float: left; width: 20px; height: 20px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px 2px; background-image: url(http://thehill.com/sites/all/themes/thehill/images/email-share-small.png); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"> </a></div><a href="http://thehill.com/policy/defense/225107-flashback-biden-promised-us-troops-would-leave-afghanistan-by-2014#disqus_thread" class="disqus-comments" data-disqus-identifier="node/225107" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; outline: none; padding-right: 4px; font-weight: bold; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; vertical-align: top; display: inline; float: right; margin: 16px 0px;"><span style="width: 72px; height: 30px; background-image: url(http://thehill.com/sites/all/themes/thehill/images/sprite.png); display: inline-block; text-indent: -100px; overflow: hidden; margin-right: 5px; vertical-align: top; background-position: -312px -187px; background-repeat: initial initial;"></span> 0</a></div><header></header><div class="field field-name-field-image field-type-image field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" rel="og:image rdfs:seeAlso" resource="http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/bidenjoe_091914getty.jpg?itok=_wTxvTfb"><img typeof="foaf:Image" width="645" height="363" alt="" style="border: 0px; max-width: 100%;" apple-inline="yes" id="BA92A7D3-9FF9-4815-8354-2A662C5C8E34" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:95D4CD77-EDBD-4E28-9D90-8BA320E5044E"></div></div></div><div class="credits" style="text-align: right; font-style: italic; font-size: 11px; line-height: 1;"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); font-size: 11px; line-height: 1;">By <span rel="sioc:has_creator"><a href="http://thehill.com/author/rebecca-shabad" style="color: rgb(0, 51, 102); text-decoration: none; outline: none;">Rebecca Shabad</a></span> - <span class="date" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">11/22/14 11:30 AM EST</span></div><div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden" style="overflow: hidden; font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p style="margin: 15px 0px;">Vice President Biden in 2010 said the United States would withdraw from Afghanistan by 2014 “come hell or high water,” an unlikely outcome as reports surface that President Obama recently expanded the mission.</p><p style="margin: 15px 0px;">"We're starting it in July of 2011 and we're going to be totally out of there, come hell or high water, by 2014,” he said four years ago, <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8214868/Joe-Biden-says-troops-will-leave-Afghanistan-by-2014-come-hell-or-high-water.html" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102); text-decoration: none; outline: none; font-weight: bold;">according</a> to <em>The Telegraph.</em></p><div id="dfp-ad-mosad_1-wrapper" class="dfp-tag-wrapper wrapper" style="position: relative;"></div>Obama announced in May that most U.S. troops would leave Afghanistan by the end of the year except for 9,800 that would stay behind through 2016. <p style="margin: 15px 0px;">In recent weeks, Obama signed a classified order that will expand the U.S. mission in Afghanistan next year for those remaining troops, t<em>he New York Times</em> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/22/us/politics/in-secret-obama-extends-us-role-in-afghan-combat.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102); text-decoration: none; outline: none; font-weight: bold;">reported</a> Friday.</p><p style="margin: 15px 0px;">The new mission directs U.S. troops to carry out operations against the Taliban and other militant groups that threaten Afghanistan’s stability using jets, drones and bombers. They will also help advise and train Afghan forces so they are able to act on their own...</p><div><br></div></div></div></div></article><div><div>On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:09 PM, 'C. G. Estabrook' <a href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a> [sf-core] <<a href="mailto:sf-core-noreply@yahoogroups.com">sf-core-noreply@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; w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