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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Roger,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For once I am going to have to agree with you in a very general sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Which Michael Moore films did you like in the past ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Johnson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> David Johnson<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] Filmmaker Michael Moore responds to critics of his 'Sniper' stance<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Typical Moore - I used to like some of his movies but snipers are not cowards - and if it were not for snipers, we would never have become a nation - marksmanship is what gave us a bit of an advantage over the British and the Hessians - and sniping because we had no chance against professional armies fighting the way that they did.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 5:58 AM, David Johnson via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Filmmaker responds to critics of his ‘Sniper’ stance</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/Journalists/Shawn_Langlois" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:16.0pt;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D03A14.63067970" alt="Description: http://i.mktw.net/_newsimages/2014_dreds/shawnLanglois_100.png"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>By</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><u><span style='font-size:16.0pt;color:blue'><a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/Journalists/Shawn_Langlois" target="_blank" title="Shawn Langlois">ShawnLanglois </a></span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Markets reporter</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><img border=0 width=569 height=398 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D03A14.63067970" alt="Description: http://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2013/08/15/Photos/MG/MW-BG899_michae_20130815153207_MG.jpg?uuid=75aa0e92-05e1-11e3-86f7-00212876b3fc"><i>Reuters</i> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Filmmaker Michael Moore, an expert courter of controversy, has been pilloried over the past few days by some on the right, including the likes of Sarah Palin and Kid Rock, for incendiary words he tweeted about the “American Sniper” film. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Newt Gingrich went so far as to suggest Moore should spend some time <a href="https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/556988852897054720" target="_blank">with ISIS and Boko Haram</a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>This is what started it all: <a href="https://twitter.com/MMFlint" target="_blank">Michael Moore <b><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>✔</span></b> @<b>MMFlint</b> </a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><a href="https://twitter.com/MMFlint" target="_blank" title="Follow Michael Moore on Twitter">Follow</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren't heroes. And invaders r worse</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><a href="https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/556914094406926336" target="_blank">2:40 PM - 18 Jan 2015</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>After catching flak for his contentious remarks, Moore <a href="https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/posts/10152568343941857" target="_blank">took to Facebook</a> on Sunday to hit back at those accusing him of hating the troops. Damage control, it wasn’t. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>“Well, who would know better about hating our troops than those who supported sending them into a senseless war Iraq in the first place? And, for 4,482 of them, a senseless, unnecessary and regrettable death,” he wrote. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>“If you supported that invasion, if you voted for George W. Bush and the Republicans and Democrats who backed this war, then you are the ones who have some ‘splainin’ to do. Not me. You.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>He went on to list the ways in which he’s proven his support of the troops. For one, when his dad died, Moore asked that instead of flowers, donations be sent to the Veterans of Peace. He also mentioned how he pushes businesses to hire vets, raises money for wounded soldiers and offers free admission for military personnel and their families at his theater in Michigan. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Moore also took a swipe at the director of the film. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>“You can’t have a conversation about what Clint Eastwood is up to if you haven’t seen what it is he’s up to,” he wrote. “Eastwood made maybe the greatest Western ever — ‘Unforgiven’ — but now it’s sad seeing him talking to an empty chair on a stage or making an Iraq movie that Rolling Stone this week called ‘<a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/american-sniper-is-almost-too-dumb-to-criticize-20150121" target="_blank">too dumb to bother criticizing</a>.’”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Then he took a parting shot directly at his network nemesis.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>“I tried to save more lives than a sniper ever could hope to — by preventing us from going to war in the first place,” he said. “So, Fox News and the other lazy media — quit making s**t up about me! You look ridiculous.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>As for the film itself, the buzz doesn’t seem to be hurting a bit. The drama about the SEAL marksman topped the box office for the second weekend in a row, reaping more than $200 million, along with several Academy Award nominations. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>