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    I also strongly support Occupy!<br>
    <br>
    What's wrong with being an anarchist at heart?<br>
    <br>
    Are you praising them or criticizing them?<br>
    <br>
    If ya live in Amerika and you don't at least sympathize with<br>
    anarchists, you might be duped or sumpthin'.<br>
    <br>
    I was disappointed not to see Amerikans in the street<br>
    like the comrades in Greece raising hell and being pissed off.<br>
    <br>
    Americans are soft.  (Is it Malakas or Malakos?)<br>
    <br>
    ... the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen
    to shrink from controversy.<br>
    <br>
    ***<br>
    <p>"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society;
      and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to
      secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings.</p>
    <p>We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted
      concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which
      are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in
      opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary
      restrictions.</p>
    <p>Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our
      nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very
      grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be
      seized upon those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits
      of official censorship and concealment.</p>
    <p>That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my
      control.</p>
    <p>And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or
      low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight
      as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up
      our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the
      facts they deserve to know."</p>
    <p>For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless
      conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of
      influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion
      instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on
      guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.</p>
    <p>It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material
      resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient
      machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence,
      economic, scientific and political operations.</p>
    <p>Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are
      buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No
      expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is
      revealed."</p>
    <p>"No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For
      from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that
      understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary.</p>
    <p>I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration,
      but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and
      alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in
      the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are
      fully informed.</p>
    <p>I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers-- I
      welcome it.</p>
    <p>This Administration intends to be candid about its errors; for as
      a wise man once said: "An error does not become a mistake until
      you refuse to correct it." We intend to accept full responsibility
      for our errors; and we expect you to point them out when we miss
      them.</p>
    <p>Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no
      country can succeed-- and no republic can survive.</p>
    <p>That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for
      any citizen to shrink from controversy.</p>
    <p>And that is why our press was protected by the First (emphasized)
      Amendment-- the only business in America specifically protected by
      the Constitution-- not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to
      emphasize the trivial and sentimental, not to simply "give the
      public what it wants"--but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to
      state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises
      and our choices, to lead, mold educate and sometimes even anger
      public opinion.</p>
    <p>This means greater coverage and analysis of international news--
      for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and
      local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the
      news as well as improved transmission. And it means, finally, that
      government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you
      with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits
      of national security...</p>
    <p>And so it is to the printing press--to the recorder of mans
      deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news--
      that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your
      help man will<br>
      be what he was born to be: free and independent."</p>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/04/2015 11:15 PM, David Johnson
      via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You
            need to RE-READ the article Roger !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This
            information came from Freedom of Information Requests.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And
            I LOVE Occupy, TRUE American patriots !  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">David
            J.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
            Roger Helbig [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:rwhelbig@gmail.com">mailto:rwhelbig@gmail.com</a>] <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 04, 2015 8:39 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> David Johnson<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] The FBI Invents Some
            Plots & Ignores Others In War On Freedom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">and you really believe some Occupy puke,
            yes, I do despise them and their inability to control
            anarchists vandals who destroyed things in Oakland - I would
            take anything that Occupy says and carefully vet it before I
            ever sent it on to anyone.  And yes, they deserved to be
            closely surveilled - they were anarchists at heart if not in
            fact and their encampments were full of people causing
            trouble along with a few who actually thought that they were
            doing something sincere.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:24 AM, David
              Johnson via Peace-discuss <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"
                target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                      style="font-size:24.0pt">The FBI Invents Some
                      Plots & Ignores Others In War On Freedom</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <span style="font-size:16.0pt">By Derek Royden, <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.occupy.com/article/manufacturing-terror-how-fbi-invents-some-plots-and-ignores-others-war-freedom"
                      target="_blank">www.occupy.com</a><br>
                    February 3rd, 2015</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">After Sept. 11,
                    2001, the FBI was forced to re-prioritize, making
                    counter-terrorism the Bureau’s main focus. More than
                    1,800 agents, almost a third of the total dealing
                    with criminal cases from organized crime to
                    insurance fraud, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/washington/19fbi.html/pagewanted=all&_r=0"
                      target="_blank"><span style="color:black">were
                        transferred</span></a> to terrorism and
                    intelligence duties in the aftermath of the attacks.
                    What 9/11 did, among other things, was to create a
                    need for proof, via arrests, that the new State
                    focus on terrorism was showing results.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">We’ve all seen
                    the headlines from mainstream media sources after
                    arrests were made and press conferences were given
                    by high level officials announcing another disrupted
                    “terror plot.” Yet, when one investigates these
                    cases, as many journalists and writers in the
                    alternative press have done, we see the score isn’t
                    as it all appears – and when compared with similar
                    cases where terror charges were not brought, a
                    disturbing picture emerges.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                      style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">The Seas of
                      David and the Redefinition of Entrapment</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">In criminal
                    law, a person is <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://definitions.uslegal.com/e/entrapment/"
                      target="_blank"><span style="color:black">“entrapped”</span></a> when
                    s/he is induced or persuaded by law enforcement
                    officers, or their agents, to commit a crime that
                    s/he had no previous intent to commit.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">Most Americans
                    know there have been some dubious prosecutions in
                    the FBI’s ongoing effort to thwart terror attacks on
                    American soil. Unfortunately, it seems many
                    Americans are too scared to care. The vast majority
                    of these cases have involved Muslim Americans, a
                    group that has never had much power in terms of
                    American politics and less so in the wake of 9/11
                    and two wars in majority Muslim countries. My
                    purpose isn’t to dismiss these cases, but to show
                    the slippery slope they represent: when one group
                    gets targeted successfully, other marginalized
                    groups usually follow.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">A story that
                    illustrates this slide is the group the media dubbed
                    the Liberty City 7. Arrested in June 2006, this
                    group, we were told, had taken an oath to Al Qaeda
                    and planned a series of attacks to rival or even
                    surpass 9/11. There were just a few problems with
                    the narrative: five African-American and two Haitian
                    men taken into custody were not Muslims, were facing
                    dire economic circumstances (most were homeless),
                    and the ostensible leader of the group, a colorful
                    character named Narseal Batiste, seemed willing to
                    say just about anything to get money out of the FBI
                    informant who had created the plot out of whole
                    cloth.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">Almost all FBI
                    stings have one thing in common: the use of
                    informants who are themselves trying to get out of
                    criminal charges, and are doing the job for cash, or
                    both. The main informant in the Liberty City case,
                    Elie Assad, courted the men who practiced their own
                    religion based on elements of Christianity, Judaism
                    and Islam, and who called themselves “The Seas of
                    David.” The informants’ motivations seem obvious
                    today; in all, Assad and another informant, Abbas
                    al-Saidi, got more than $130,000 for their work
                    helping FBI handlers build a case against the seven
                    men.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">Another
                    interesting note about the Seas of David: they never
                    actually engaged in anything resembling violence,
                    and even <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-fbi-entrapment-is-inventing-terrorists-and-letting-bad-guys-off-the-hook-20120515"
                      target="_blank"><span style="color:black">refused
                        to receive weapons when they were offered them</span></a>.
                    James J. Wedick, a former agent with the Bureau, <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/07/21/fbi-entrapment-created-illusiob-terrorist-plots-report"
                      target="_blank"><span style="color:black">said of
                        the group</span></a>: “These guys couldn’t find
                    their way down the end of the street. They were
                    homeless types. And, yes, we did show a picture
                    where somebody was taking an oath to Al Qaeda. So
                    what? They didn’t care. They only cared about the
                    money. When we put forth a case like that to suggest
                    to the American public that we’re protecting them,
                    we’re not protecting them.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">One of the men
                    was acquitted in the first trial, while the other
                    six were tried three times, with the first two
                    proceedings ending in mistrials due to hung juries.
                    Eventually, five of the six remaining men were
                    sentenced to between five and 12 years behind bars,
                    while the last was acquitted. Because the legal
                    process took so long, and the mainstream media has
                    proven itself incapable of accurately and fairly
                    following stories like this one, most people only
                    remember that a group of “terrorists” were targeting
                    the Sears Tower in Chicago – a place that none of
                    the men ever actually visited. Few, by contrast,
                    remember any actual details about the case,
                    specifically the entrapment of a group of hapless
                    individuals known as Seas of David.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                      style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">The Strange
                      Plot Against Occupy Houston</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">There has also
                    been a strange selectivity when it comes to who gets
                    charged under terror laws. The Southern Poverty Law
                    Center has for years publicized cases of white
                    supremacist and militia groups plotting actions that
                    don’t result in terrorism charges, even though they
                    seem to meet the legal requirements. At the same
                    time, animal rights activists, who have filmed
                    animal abuses or committed some form of property
                    damage, but never harmed people, have been charged
                    with the gravest of offenses: terrorism.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">Now let’s jump
                    to Houston where, several years ago, heavily
                    redacted documents released under a Freedom of
                    Information Act request showed that at the height of
                    the Occupy movement, in October 2011, a group was
                    planning to target “leaders” of the Occupy Houston
                    encampment using sniper rifles. One might think the
                    FBI could investigate the person or persons planning
                    to assassinate American protesters peacefully
                    exercising their Constitutional rights.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">Sadly, the
                    Bureau wasn’t interested and couldn’t even be
                    bothered to forward the sniper plot information to
                    state or local authorities so that they could pursue
                    it themselves. A few competing theories as to who
                    may have been involved in the plot have since
                    emerged – from the FBI itself authorizing the plan
                    as part of a modern-era COINTELPRO program, to a
                    mercenary company called <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://whowhatwhy.org/2013/06/27/fbi-document-deleted-plots-to-kill-occupy-leaders-if-deemed-necessary/"
                      target="_blank"><span style="color:black">Craft
                        International planning the attack at the
                        direction of unknown bosses</span></a>. Or,
                    after all, it could have just been a small
                    right-wing group that decided not to take action
                    after receiving a visit from federal law enforcement
                    – an opportunity to avoid decades in prison that
                    groups like the Animal Liberation Front rarely, if
                    ever, receive.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">When we really
                    look at terrorism in the post-9/11 era, we begin to
                    see clearly something that the police and
                    intelligence communities have tried to obscure.
                    Almost every real foiled plot was stopped by
                    ordinary bystanders, whether passengers on a plane
                    or a street vendor selling food in Times Square.
                    Federal law enforcement groups have budgetary and
                    political incentives to make us believe we stand
                    somehow powerless against the dark forces bent on
                    our destruction, and that we must give up more of
                    our rights for our own safety. While this may still
                    be true in a war-torn country like Afghanistan, it’s
                    not true in the U.S. or anywhere else in the Western
                    world where people are statistically more likely to
                    be struck by lightning than to die in a terrorist
                    attack. After the financial crisis of 2008 put so
                    many working people out of their homes, at least
                    some of the money spent creating terrorism where
                    none existed before could have been spent
                    investigating the bankers who tanked the economy.
                    Entrapment, then, might take on a whole new meaning.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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