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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I like David Swanson and the organizations involved in the drafting of the petition referred to below, and will be happy to sign, post and circulate, once the details of the text are available for review. As we all know, the devil is in the details.<BR><br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:11:34 -0600<br>To: r-szoke@illinois.edu<br>CC: peace-discuss@anti-war.net<br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Shall AWARE join proposed petition? -> against AUMF<br>From: peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br><br>BTW, that's an offensive cartoon, unless I'm misreading it. I think Ron's circulating it to show how the US demonization campaign works.<div><br></div><div>It seems to say that Putin is offering a ceasefire to "Ukraine" (apparently the Kiev government) as bait for a trap. </div><div><br></div><div>That purposely misrepresents what's going on in the proxy war that was begun by the attack of the US puppet on the Donbas 'separatists' - at US urging.</div><div><br></div><div>The Kiev government is now responsible for at least as many deaths in Donbas as another US client was responsible for in Gaza. </div><div><br><div>The US propaganda stance as usual is to obscure its imperialist actions as aiding someone's defense (NATO itself being a salient example).</div><div><br></div><div>As the liberal foreign policy maven George Kennan wrtote for the State Department in 1948, "We should stop putting ourselves in the position of being our brothers' keeper and refrain from offering moral and ideological advice. We should cease to talk about vague and -- for the Far East -- unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better."</div><div><br></div><div>But the idealistic slogans protect the administration from the only enemy it really fears, the US public. So Putin is "a new Hitler," as Hillary says. </div><div><br></div><div>--CGE</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 14, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Szoke, Ronald Duane via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><blockquote>
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I’m in favor, contingent on what the final draft actually says — trusting it will not be one of those overheated accusatory screeds that only serve to antagonize people. — Ron
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<div>On Feb 14, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>Shall AWARE put our name in?<br>
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The note doesn't include the text of the petition - presumably it is still to be drafted - but if we express interest we'll hear more.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">RootsAction and WorldBeyondWar are planning an online petition opposing AUMF, with usual sharing of results with participating orgs. Orgs that want to participate please contact me.<br clear="all">
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<div dir="ltr"><b>David Swanson </b>is an author, activist, journalist, and radio host. He is director of
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