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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>In answer to Stan<BR> <BR>Haven't we tried that, taking over the Democrat Party? It doesn't appear to have gotten us anywhere, most of the dems, certainly not all, are owned by the corporations, not conspiracy theory, simply a fact, ownership comes in many forms. Bribery, threats, social pressure, requirements for compromise on issues of lesser importance, which often means "foreign policy" for those with primarily domestic concerns. That's why I don't support Bernie. <BR>I will support any democrat who is willing to support some of the goals of the Green Party against a republican, I am willing to support Carol, if she is willing to speak with us, as she has indicated she will do, and convince us that she will do the right thing and the abstention on BDS was a mistake. <BR>Rather than retribution, I seek solutions. However, I agree with Carl and others that it's time to build a third party with "foreign policy" a major concern, as we certainly haven't gotten that from the Democratic Party. <br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:55:19 -0500<br>To: occupycu@lists.chambana.net<br>CC: peace-discuss@anti-war.net; sf-core@yahoogroups.com; carl@newsfromneptune.com<br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] Perfidious Democrats (in Illinois, as elsewhere)<br>From: peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br><br><div><div>The green party just guarantees Republican domination.</div><div>What we need to do is follow the Tea Party example, and take over the Democratic Party.</div><div><br></div><div><font style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><i>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID</i></font></div></div><div class="ecxquote">On Jul 9, 2015 9:30 PM, Karen Aram via OccupyCU <occupycu@lists.chambana.net> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxquote" style="padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">
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<div dir="ltr">A perfect example as to why we need the Green Party.<br> <br><div>> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 21:18:03 -0500<br>> To: peace-discuss@anti-war.net<br>> CC: sf-core@yahoogroups.com; occupyCU@lists.chambana.net<br>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Perfidious Democrats (in Illinois, as elsewhere)<br>> From: peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br>> <br>> I've just come from a 'Joint Town Hall' rally with Illinois state senator Scott Bennett & state representative Carol Ammons. They blamed the wretched Governor Rauner for the state's budget impasse. In fact, it's entirely in the Democrats' hands. (Bennett & Ammons are both Democrats.) <br>> <br>> As Paul Mueth pointed out at the meeting, the Democrats have veto-proof majorities in both houses. They could pass a budget and the taxes - primarily a financial-transactions tax (HB 106) - necessary to fund it. <br>> <br>> Ammons replied that not all those Democrat votes can be counted on. Thus the Democrats can have it both ways - they can say that they're in favor of the spending and the taxes, but then allow enough no votes so that they won't pass. <br>> <br>> The same thing happened with Speaker Madigan's 'millionaires' tax.' In both cases the Democrats can tell the public they're interested in solving the problem - and then quietly show their 1% donors that they won't do it.<br>> <br>> —CGE<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Peace-discuss mailing list<br>> Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss<br></div> </div>
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