<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I’m not sure we can say we’re opposing the war unless we oppose those who make the effective decisions about war-making.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Not to do so acquiesces in the “Obama couldn’t do anything else” line, and that’s false.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We could try to edit McCoy (and throw in Brzezinski, to bring it up to date), but I’m afraid Karen’s initial critique ("good for the politically aware, but for novices”) would apply even more to that. I’ll give a shot, so to speak, but I’m partial to Swanson.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—CGE</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 20, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Stuart Levy <<a href="mailto:stuartnlevy@gmail.com" class="">stuartnlevy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I still think it could be good if there's a way to draw on the Alfred McCoy commentary on the continuity of geopolitics, which Mort had posted last month... Though it is not close to being a page-long piece, I'd be happy to sift it for quotable fragments. This is the piece, again:</span><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176007/tomgram%3A_alfred_mccoy%2C_washington%27s_great_game_and_why_it%27s_failing_/" style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176007/tomgram%3A_alfred_mccoy%2C_washington%27s_great_game_and_why_it%27s_failing_/</a><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 7/20/15 3:10 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:BAY177-W21B085A81B02B4CE1C4477A3850@phx.gbl" type="cite" style="font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">To be frank, AWARE demos should focus on US imperialism, hegemony, provocation and war mongering. I would like to make people aware of the recent release of the Pentagon report which commits us to war in spite of the lack of aggression on the part of Russia, China, Iran etc.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Engaging in electoral distractions does not educate, it merely agitates.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""> <br class=""><div class=""><hr id="stopSpelling" class="">Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:04:01 -0500<br class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com">karenaram@hotmail.com</a><br class="">CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">peace-discuss@anti-war.net</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a><br class="">Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer for AWARE demo Sat. 1 Aug.<br class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I would have to agree. The writing here is targeting an audience that is probably already in agreement with the author. If the intention is to bring new information to those who don't have it, I'd suggest providing more background on the information provided in the article. But that's possibly what you meant by "suitably edited".<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">This is good for the politically aware, but for novices, which is often those to whom we are distributing they might not get it.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""> <br class=""><div class=""><hr class="">Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:30:44 -0500<br class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net" target="_blank" class="">peace-discuss@anti-war.net</a><br class="">Subject: [Peace-discuss] Proposed flyer for AWARE demo Sat. 1 Aug.<br class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><span class=""><br class=""><br class="">How about a suitably edited version of the following as the verso, the recto being our usual general description of AWARE’s purpose?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://davidswanson.org/node/4836" target="_blank" class="">http://davidswanson.org/node/4836</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""></span>_______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a></div></div></div><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Peace-discuss mailing list<br class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><br class="">_______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a></div></div><br class=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><br class=""><pre wrap="" class="">_______________________________________________
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