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the situations are entirely different, but no one has the sheer
endurance to continue an a discussion with you when you simply
repeat yourself ad infinitum. One thing i learned as a mother is
never to engage in a contest of wills with a two year old because he
has nothing better to do.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/25/2015 5:26 PM, 'C. G. Estabrook'
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a> [sf-core] wrote:<br>
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<p>I take your failure to answer to be a recognition that
our representatives should vote against apartheid, in
South Africa and Israel.<br>
<br>
The legal maxim is, ‘If the facts are for you, argue the
facts; if the law is for you, argue the law; if neither,
attack opposing counsel.'<br>
<br>
> On Jul 25, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Gregg Gordon
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com"><ggregg79@yahoo.com></a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Not surprisingly you're missing the point. The point
has nothing to do with South Africa, or even Israel. The
point is you're a -- well, pompous ass is accurate enough,
but too cliched. Donald Trump comes to mind as an apt
comparison, except some people take him seriously, so I
guess I'm at a loss. Nevertheless, that your missives are
uniformly hostile and boorish, I can tolerate. Sometimes
they even amuse me for their total lack of judgment and
sense of scale, much the way Trump does. What does not
amuse me is they are counterproductive to moving toward
the better world everyone on these lists wants to see. So
I wish you'd shut up, but I know you won't.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:45 PM, C. G. Estabrook
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com"><carl@newsfromneptune.com></a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sorry. I meant to ask, What did you think of South
African apartheid?<br>
> <br>
> If the South African government had engineered a vote
in its favor in the Illinois legislature a generation ago,
what do you think your representatives should have done?<br>
> <br>
> The parallel isn’t exact: Israeli apartheid in the
Occupied Territories is worse than South African apartheid
ever was.<br>
> <br>
> —CGE<br>
> <br>
>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Carl G. Estabrook
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu"><galliher@illinois.edu></a> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
> Have you score on South African apartheid?<br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
> On Jul 25, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Gregg Gordon via
Peace-discuss <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"><peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net></a>
wrote:<br>
> <br>
> I agree with Mr. Kay. Thanks for speaking up.<br>
> <br>
> Gregg Gordon<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Friday, July 24, 2015 10:40 PM, C. G. Estabrook
via Peace <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net"><peace@lists.chambana.net></a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Would you say the same if they’d failed to vote
against apartheid in South Africa?<br>
> <br>
> (BTW, I haven’t done a radio program in years: are
you sure you’re listening to others’ points of view?)<br>
> <br>
> Regards, CGE<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Bruce KAY
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bruce.kay@homemail.com.au"><bruce.kay@homemail.com.au></a> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Mr Estabrook,<br>
>> <br>
>> You are a painfully single-issue twat. You have
zero political nous. You fail to understand that Scott
Bennett and Carol Ammons are good representatives of
Champaign Urbana despite that they are not Green Party
members and despite that they do not always agree with you
sir, You show no tolerance of the compromises Carol and
Scott are forced to make as working politicians attempting
to achieve the policies they perceive as most important
for our C-U constituency. You fail to understand, let
alone acknowledge the cut and thrust of state politics.
You try to bask in your former glory as a past candidate,
without ever grasping the real reason why you never got
elected. Because you are uncompromising. You pontificate
on your radio program with obnoxious opinions,
consistently displaying your inability to listen to
others’ points of view.<br>
>> <br>
>> For the past few weeks I have desisted from
commenting on your tirade of harassment of Carol Ammons
and Scott Bennett. But you are so one-eyed that your
opinions amount to harassment.<br>
>> <br>
>> I too favor the Green Party, and support Jill
Stein for President. But I don’t subscribe to your brand
of hateful chauvinist aggression<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Please Mr C G Estabrook, pull your head in.<br>
>> <br>
>> Nobody wants to be harangued by your diatribe of
hatred. <br>
>> Bruce<br>
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bruce.kay@homemail.com.au">bruce.kay@homemail.com.au</a><br>
>> +1 217 419 9140 (in the USA)<br>
>> +61 412 213 689 (in Australia)<br>
>> Home address: 96 Murranji Street Hawker ACT
Australia 2614<br>
>> Address in USA: 4018 N. Lincoln Avenue Champaign
ILL USA 61822<br>
>> _________________________________<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 20:34, C. G. Estabrook
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com"><carl@newsfromneptune.com></a> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/new-illinois-law-does-not-make-bds-illegal">https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/new-illinois-law-does-not-make-bds-illegal</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> The self-styled liberals from C-U, state
senator Scott Bennett and state representative Carol
Ammons, refused to vote against this bill, promoted by the
government of Israel. The bill supports Israeli apartheid:
they would not have refused to vote against a bill
supporting South African apartheid a generation ago.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> —CGE<br>
>> <br>
> <br>
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