<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437852786978_50698" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437852786978_55714">Not surprisingly you're missing the point. The point has nothing to do with South Africa, or even Israel. The point is you're a -- well, pompous ass is accurate enough, but too cliched. Donald Trump comes to mind as an apt comparison, except some people take him seriously, so I guess I'm at a loss. Nevertheless, that your missives are uniformly hostile and boorish, I can tolerate. Sometimes they even amuse me for their total lack of judgment and sense of scale, much the way Trump does. What does not amuse me is they are counterproductive to moving toward the better world everyone on these lists wants to see. So I wish you'd shut up, but I know you won't.</span></div> <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:45 PM, C. G. Estabrook <carl@newsfromneptune.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6232538264"><div>Sorry. I meant to ask, What did you think of South African apartheid?<div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">If the South African government had engineered a vote in its favor in the Illinois legislature a generation ago, what do you think your representatives should have done?<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">The parallel isn’t exact: Israeli apartheid in the Occupied Territories is worse than South African apartheid ever was.</div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">—CGE</div><div class="yiv6232538264yqt2554282451" id="yiv6232538264yqt54650"><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><div><blockquote class="yiv6232538264" type="cite"><div class="yiv6232538264">On Jul 25, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Carl G. Estabrook <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" ymailto="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">galliher@illinois.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv6232538264"></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv6232538264yqt2554282451" id="yiv6232538264yqt04563"><div><div class="yiv6232538264"><div class="yiv6232538264">Have you score on South African apartheid?<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264">Sent from my iPhone</div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264">On Jul 25, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><blockquote class="yiv6232538264" type="cite"><div class="yiv6232538264">
</div></blockquote></div></div><div><div class="yiv6232538264" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div class="yiv6232538264" id="yiv6232538264yui_3_16_0_1_1437841530419_3719"><span class="yiv6232538264">I agree with Mr. Kay. Thanks for speaking up.</span></div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><span class="yiv6232538264"></span></div><div class="yiv6232538264" dir="ltr"><span class="yiv6232538264">Gregg Gordon</span></div> <br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><div class="yiv6232538264qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div class="yiv6232538264" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div class="yiv6232538264" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv6232538264" dir="ltr"> <font class="yiv6232538264" size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, July 24, 2015 10:40 PM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" ymailto="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"> </font> </div> <br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"> <div class="yiv6232538264y_msg_container"><div class="yiv6232538264" id="yiv6232538264"><div class="yiv6232538264">Would you say the same if they’d failed to vote against apartheid in South Africa?<div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">(BTW, I haven’t done a radio program in years: are you sure you’re listening to others’ points of view?)</div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">Regards, CGE</div><div class="yiv6232538264"><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><div class="yiv6232538264"><blockquote class="yiv6232538264" type="cite"><div class="yiv6232538264">On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Bruce KAY <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" ymailto="mailto:bruce.kay@homemail.com.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:bruce.kay@homemail.com.au">bruce.kay@homemail.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv6232538264"><div class="yiv6232538264" style="word-wrap:break-word;">Mr Estabrook,<div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">You are a painfully single-issue twat. You have zero political nous. You fail to understand that Scott Bennett and Carol Ammons are good representatives of Champaign Urbana despite that they are not Green Party members and despite that they do not always agree with you sir, You show no tolerance of the compromises Carol and Scott are forced to make as working politicians attempting to achieve the policies they perceive as most important for our C-U constituency. You fail to understand, let alone acknowledge the cut and thrust of state politics. You try to bask in your former glory as a past candidate, without ever grasping the real reason why you never got elected. Because you are uncompromising. You pontificate on your radio program with obnoxious opinions, consistently displaying your inability to listen to others’ points of view.</div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">For the past few weeks I have desisted from commenting on your tirade of harassment of Carol Ammons and Scott Bennett. But you are so one-eyed that your opinions amount to harassment.</div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">I too favor the Green Party, and support Jill Stein for President. But I don’t subscribe to your brand of hateful chauvinist aggression</div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">Please Mr C G Estabrook, pull your head in.</div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">Nobody wants to be harangued by your diatribe of hatred. <br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><div class="yiv6232538264">
<div class="yiv6232538264" style="letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word;">Bruce<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" ymailto="mailto:bruce.kay@homemail.com.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:bruce.kay@homemail.com.au">bruce.kay@homemail.com.au</a><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264">+1 217 419 9140 (in the USA)</div><div class="yiv6232538264" style="letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word;">+61 412 213 689 (in Australia)<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264">Home address: 96 Murranji Street Hawker ACT Australia 2614</div><div class="yiv6232538264" style="letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word;">Address in USA: 4018 N. Lincoln Avenue Champaign ILL USA 61822<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264">_________________________________<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div>
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<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><div class="yiv6232538264"><blockquote class="yiv6232538264" type="cite"><div class="yiv6232538264">On Jul 24, 2015, at 20:34, C. G. Estabrook <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" ymailto="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv6232538264"><div class="yiv6232538264" style="word-wrap:break-word;"><div class="yiv6232538264"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" target="_blank" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__electronicintifada.net_blogs_nora-2Dbarrows-2Dfriedman_new-2Dillinois-2Dlaw-2Ddoes-2Dnot-2Dmake-2Dbds-2Dillegal&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=7giHR9b5Iyfnr1E_Oka2alPOUR-cBWOcRwpPYxH7INc&s=sM8XL4kcIzYrV6nmI8lr3um2OFTTDZJjQ7ynX3EEPLo&e=">https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/new-illinois-law-does-not-make-bds-illegal</a></div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">The self-styled liberals from C-U, state senator Scott Bennett and state representative Carol Ammons, refused to vote against this bill, promoted by the government of Israel. The bill supports Israeli apartheid: they would not have refused to vote against a bill supporting South African apartheid a generation ago.</div><div class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div><div class="yiv6232538264">—CGE</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div></div></div></div><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264">_______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264">Peace mailing list<br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" ymailto="mailto:Peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:Peace@lists.chambana.net">Peace@lists.chambana.net</a><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" target="_blank" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.chambana.net_mailman_listinfo_peace&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=7giHR9b5Iyfnr1E_Oka2alPOUR-cBWOcRwpPYxH7INc&s=11aaDlrtzpcaQCvtZ3k5ssCrOoMwxV2pZjJo86c8hX0&e=">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace</a><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div> </div> </div> </div></div><blockquote class="yiv6232538264" type="cite"><div class="yiv6232538264"><span class="yiv6232538264">_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><span class="yiv6232538264">Peace-discuss mailing list</span><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><span class="yiv6232538264"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" ymailto="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a></span><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"><span class="yiv6232538264"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6232538264" target="_blank" href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a></span><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div></blockquote><br clear="none" class="yiv6232538264"></div></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>