<div dir="ltr">David - you are the one who is programmed - the C-130 is a 4-engine turboprop transport plane that is armed with cannon - it is incapable of dropping bombs - when you accuse someone or some organization of doing something make it stand up in court, get the facts straight - don't just shoot from the hip because you think it sounds nice. You just can not bomb a hospital with an AC-130 - you can attack it and you can do tremendous damage, and it is an airstrike, but it is not bombing. That's all I ask - get the facts straight - the one that is most important is who called in the airstrike and did they error in the coordinates or deliberately give those of the hospital in order to cause this terrible mistaken attack.<div><br></div><div>I know that you really don;t care much for facts, so why do you pretend to do so - </div><div><br></div><div>Roger</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 6:59 PM, David Johnson via Peace-discuss <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Roger is programed Carl,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">No facts or evidence that shatters his propaganda illusion about the the corporate state and it’s empire will convince him.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">A lost cause and a total waste of time !<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">David J.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Peace-discuss [mailto:<a href="mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2015 8:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> Roger Helbig<br><b>Cc:</b> Peace-discuss; <a href="mailto:Michaela@codepink.org" target="_blank">Michaela@codepink.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] Code Pink: Rebuild the bombed hospital in Kunduz! to Senate Armed Services Cmte, *tomorrow*, Oct 6th<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Nonsense. As your technical analysis shows, it was a conscious decision by the US military who knew perfectly well what they were targeting. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The US has done similar things form Belgrade to Fallujah. Manning is in prison for revealing how it’s done. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Typical US war crimes. “Set up,” my eye….<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 5, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Having heard that an AC-130 gun ship was used in this attack that was supposed to have been in support of Afghanistan soldiers who were allegedly under active attack, I would like to point out that this hospital was NOT bombed and any sources that claim "bombing" are inaccurate - the AC-130 fires cannon and does not carry bombs. That still causes terrible destruction and death, but it is not bombing. It also is much more highly targeted and several passes would have been made. The AC-130 circles the target and fires the cannon while circling. That accounts for eyewitness account I just saw on ABC news that there were repeated air attacks.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The attack on the hospital is a tragedy and the hospital should be rebuilt, but there are a lot of missing facts about why this happened. There is a good possiblity that the US Air Force was set up.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Stuart Levy via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Code Pink has a petition: Rebuild the bombed hospital in Kunduz! <br><br>They aim to present signatures *tomorrow*, Oct 6th, at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing about Afghanistan.<br><br>Sign up here:<br> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.codepink.org_campbell-5Fkunduz-3Futm-5Fcampaign-3Dafghanpetition3-26utm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dcodepink&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=gW3tkwJVSvm4MZt2AzHGcCRyaAoUz7Zjc1xSDB3ZDwg&s=zjrXayhnWXj7GDkHeL2QXyY1gwGx0VHO2XSffSLgZJk&e=" target="_blank">http://www.codepink.org/campbell_kunduz?utm_campaign=afghanpetition3&utm_medium=email&utm_source=codepink</a><br> <br>The text:<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><strong>If you’re outraged about the bombing of a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, sign this petition to the US Commander in Afghanistan, General John Campbell. We will deliver your signature to him tomorrow, October 6, at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing in Washington DC about Afghanistan! </strong><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">General John F. Campbell--<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">We condemn the October 3rd bombing of the Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan. Twelve staff members and at least seven patients, including three children, were killed; 37 people were injured, including 19 staff members. This attack constitutes a grave violation of International Humanitarian Law, and we refuse to allow this to be dismissed as “collateral damage.” <strong>Bombing a hospital is a war crime.</strong><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The U.S. government must commit the funds to rebuild this hospital, provide health care for the injured parties, and compensation to the families of the deceased.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Furthermore, we call for a full, transparent and independent investigation into the attacks.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.chambana.net_mailman_listinfo_peace-2Ddiscuss&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=gW3tkwJVSvm4MZt2AzHGcCRyaAoUz7Zjc1xSDB3ZDwg&s=Ttrk81cNoanvT5zRQohwT3HryXsLTLEIgHZdRus3yRU&e=" target="_blank">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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