<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">What’s odd is KVH’s perception of “voters' grow[ing] more concerned about national security and terrorism” as if that’s a free variable.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">She knows but doesn’t admit that it’s the result of (as I say) "the administration’s scare-mongering and attempts to mask its killing." </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(I appreciate the unwonted respect, Bob. Or were you being ironic?)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 13, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Robert Naiman <<a href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" class="">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">What's odd about it, O wise one?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class="">Robert Naiman<br class="">Policy Director<br class="">Just Foreign Policy<br class=""><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.justforeignpolicy.org&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=9JXCKeQxqQI9D_KiJJcCTbvMZFW79mJDlhLIGon1Zns&s=DlaG47GsueNyL-kuIUSqXWGii_lELUPz16ze875_Hls&e=" target="_blank" class="">www.justforeignpolicy.org</a><br class=""><a href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" target="_blank" class="">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</a><br class=""><div class=""><span style="text-align:left" class="">(202) 448-2898 x1</span><br class=""></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">That’s an odd way to say that Clinton means to continue Obama’s criminal war-making - as Obama continued Bush’s.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Her problem is that Americans are not enthusiastic for more war, in spite of the administration’s scare-mongering and attempts to mask its killing. <span class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 13, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;direction:ltr;font-family:Georgia,Century,Times,serif;font-size:15px;line-height:21px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;font-stretch:normal;color:rgb(51,51,51)" class=""><br class=""></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;direction:ltr;font-family:Georgia,Century,Times,serif;font-size:15px;line-height:21px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;font-stretch:normal;color:rgb(51,51,51)" class="">As Katrina vanden Heuvel has <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.washingtonpost.com_opinions_a-2Dvigorous-2Dforeign-2Dpolicy-2Ddebate-2Dbetween-2Dclinton-2Dand-2Dsanders_2015_12_22_05d8eb92-2Da819-2D11e5-2Dbff5-2D905b92f5f94b-5Fstory.html&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=IgZKbSLMr9ETXtUaxubXzRdTgImHRnySq-nE67XgoHQ&s=AAN4VL6g1u82heTIy2WyixVtngyUrkz3G4RrKTz3Mnc&e=" style="color:rgb(0,136,195);text-decoration:none;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline" target="_blank" class="">written</a>, "The conventional wisdom is that [Hillary] Clinton benefits as voters grow more concerned about national security and terrorism. She is the most experienced of all the candidates." But, vanden Heuvel argued, "as we have seen on domestic issues, experience is a mixed blessing when fundamental judgments have been wrong and counterproductive."</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;direction:ltr;font-family:Georgia,Century,Times,serif;font-size:15px;line-height:21px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;font-stretch:normal;color:rgb(51,51,51)" class="">It would appear that most members of MoveOn agree with vanden Heuvel on this point.</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;direction:ltr;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;font-stretch:normal" class=""><font color="#333333" face="Georgia, Century, Times, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:21px" class=""><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.huffingtonpost.com_robert-2Dnaiman_moveon-2Dmembers-2Don-2Dbernie-5Fb-5F8974246.html&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=IgZKbSLMr9ETXtUaxubXzRdTgImHRnySq-nE67XgoHQ&s=WiTgPkLEdUd9qHSTrUKub2yt4-clTyU5XoELRtBEjSE&e=" target="_blank" class="">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/moveon-members-on-bernie_b_8974246.html</a></span></font><br class=""></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;direction:ltr;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;font-stretch:normal" class=""><font color="#333333" face="Georgia, Century, Times, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:21px" class="">===</span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></span></div></div><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">
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