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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What do you care Roger and what are YOUR “ reliable ( from a factual point of view ) sources “ ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The U.S. corporate media ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Oh that is a real objective source, NOT !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You believe what you want to believe and you are obviously blissfully ignorant of any of the actual history of Latin America or the conditions of the majority of it’s people. Likewise with the history of corporate imperialism in Latin America and elsewhere in the world and CIA ; rigged elections, assassination / murders and coups against democratically elected governments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You don’t have a clue, because you don’t want to know the truth.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Johnson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 19, 2016 5:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Johnson<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] Venezuelan government expose violent plans to carry out a coup February 12<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just was looking for e-mail from a relative and found this old post by you from a probably totally unreliable (from a factual viewpoint) source and I wonder if any of it was ever found to be true or if you even cared since it could incite and inflame people who allegedly care deeply about PEACE - somehow, I would think spreading lies and inflaming people is the exact opposite of trying to make PEACE - it seems to me to be the way to spread WAR.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Roger<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:11 AM, David Johnson via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><a href="http://www.telesurtv.net/english/section/news" target="_blank" title=News>News</a> <a href="http://www.telesurtv.net/SubSecciones/en/news/latinaamerica/" target="_blank" title="Latin America">> Latin America</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Maduro Assures Justice Will Prevail</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><img border=0 width=600 height=340 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D16BAF.2051DDE0" alt="Description: President Nicolas Maduro delivers his annual presidential address in January 2015."></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>President Nicolas Maduro delivers his annual presidential address in January 2015. | Photo: AVN</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Published 22 February 2015 (15 hours 15 minutes ago) </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>0</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><img border=0 width=27 height=23 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.png@01D16BAF.2051DDE0" alt="Description: Coments"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>The Venezuelan President assured that justice will be served and advised the right wing to stop playing political games.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro Sunday denounced via his official Twitter account the right wing opposition’s attempt to secure impunity after the<a href="http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Maduro-Confirms-Arrest-of-Caracas-Mayor-for-Coup-Plotting-20150219-0034.html" target="_blank"> arrest of Metropolitan Mayor of Caracas</a> Antonio Ledezma Thursday. He assured that <a href="http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Venezuelan-Victims-of-Opposition-Violence-Demand-Justice-20150212-0003.html" target="_blank">justice will prevail</a> and defend the country from any destabilization attempt. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Maduro said that justice will be served after the government<a href="http://Venezuela:%20Coup%20in%20Real%20Time" target="_blank"> recently exposed violent plans </a>to carry out a coup February 12. The <a href="http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/New-Details-Emerge-in-Venezuela-Following-Failed-Coup-Attempt-20150214-0015.html" target="_blank">coup plans intended to attack</a> different parts of Caracas and impose an illegitimate government body. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Translation:<i> They involve soldiers in their conspiracies, with support from the Gringos, and later they abandon them and leave them to their fate, and then they only show up for their “political” figures...</i> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><br>Maduro accused right wing leaders of recruiting Venezuelan military for their coup plans.The coup sought to develop in various states with support from the US government. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'> He advised the opposition to abandon their political games, referring to their simultaneous participation in democratic elections while also developing violent coup plans against the government. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Translation:<i> Whoever wants to participate in politics respecting the constitution without ambushes and hidden (coup) letters, Welcome, we all have a place in the revolution.</i> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>This Saturday the president also called on the Venezuelan people to be alert and prepared for any scenario that could arrise as a consequence of U.S. intervention and cooperation with the Venezuelan right wing. The <a href="http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/US-Contradicts-Itself-Regarding-Intervention-in-Venezuela-20150220-0020.html" target="_blank">United States denies their involvement</a> in destablization plans against Venezuela. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><br>Translation:<i> The right wing with its wounded pride, is quiet in face of the coup attempt I've reported and that we are dismantling, keep your silence full of complicity ...</i> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>It was the discovery on February 12 that led to the arrest of Ledezma a week later on February 19. Ledezma is charged for his alleged involvement in the attempted coup. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Translation:<i> But now justice will prevail, with absolute sovereignty, prosecutors and courts must act in defense of peace and the constitution...</i> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><br>On February 20 the Public Ministry issued a statement. A judicial source said that "this arrest is related to the case of Lorent Saleh Gomez, Gabriel Valleys, Ronny Navarro, Carrero and Renzo Gerardo Prieto, who are currently being charged for alleged links with conspiratorial plans." </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>President Maduro also reported Thursday during a televised address that there is an international conspiracy against Venezuela that includes hostile media publications. Maduro said he has evidence of U.S. embassy staff involvement in the coup attempt. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>He also emphasized that cities such as: Madrid (Spain), <a href="http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Colombia-Denies-Involvement-in-Venezuela-Coup-Plot-20150219-0044.html" target="_blank">Bogota (Colombia)</a>, Miami (United States) are critical "to the conspiracy against our country." </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>