<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The task is to expose what Clinton will do as president (just what Bush did and Obama is doing) and defeating it (and her).<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But the Democrats can avoid talking about what she will do by directing popular attention to Trump’s 'fascism.’</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If Bernie’s usefulness as Hillary’s sheepdog is over, Donald can be groomed for the role. (If not the sheepdog, then the wolf - to scare the sheep back into the fold.)<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> <br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 6, 2016, at 10:35 PM, Karen Aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" class="">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">What does Trump have to do with anything, other than to ensure Hillary is elected? His making statements that support some of what we have been saying, is the work of a very, smart political strategist, to discredit what the left has to say. The average American/neoliberal sees Trump as the greatest evil. His ensuring Hillary is elected is indeed evil, as she is a murderer he isn't.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">The Chilcot report should be a wake up call to Americans that at least the Brits, now have confirmation of what many knew that many years ago, while we, the US, continue to bomb and destroy. Hillary was a participant in all of this dating back to her support for the invasion of Iraq, and later as Secretary of State, the destruction of Libya, regime change in Honduras, etc., along with others in the Obama administration.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">The need is to concentrate on building a third party that doesn't support regime change, intervention, killing and destruction, the Green Party meets that criteria. That, along with speaking out about the impending wars, with US provocations in the S. China Sea, on the border of Nato, and almost everywhere else across Eurasia, by way of proxies. We do that all the time, is anyone listening?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">The average American only hears or sees the awful things that Trump says in respect to immigrants, people of color, women, etc. So if his supporters outnumber Hillary, he may get elected, but that is not progress, and as to his foreign policy, that stays the same as it always has under any regime, Democrat or Republican, so anyone can say anything and it means nothing, it's their owners, who have the power, .<br class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""><div style="" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 1116.21875px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Carl G. Estabrook <<a href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" class="">galliher@illinois.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, July 6, 2016 10:01 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>C. G. ESTABROOK<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Karen Aram; Peace Discuss; Peace-discuss List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Peace-discuss] Excellent critique of the Chilcot Report, by Jeremy Corbin</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class="">But so long as the issue can be seen as Trump’s 'fascism,’ Hillary’s bankers and bombers needn’t worry - or care that Trump criticizes them.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 6, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class="">The question now is less what the Bushes pere et fils did, but what Obama and Clinton are doing and will do.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Let the dead bury their dead … what's past is prologue, what to come / In yours and my discharge.</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Thank you Stuart. The question for Americans to ask, is when will we have our "Chilcot" report, flawed though it is, seven years that it took to complete, too little, too late? </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Instead we are on the edge of allowing, by way of "democratic elections" many of those who should be prosecuted, to continue in power.<br class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 1116.21875px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Stuart Levy <<a href="mailto:stuartnlevy@gmail.com" class="">stuartnlevy@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, July 6, 2016 3:35 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Karen Aram; Peace-discuss List; Peace Discuss<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Stuart Levy<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Peace-discuss] Excellent critique of the Chilcot Report, by Jeremy Corbin</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class="">Excellent - and terribly sad. But good for Corbyn for speaking out. And thanks, Karen, for forwarding this.<br class=""><br class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/16 2:32 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div class="text_exposed_root text_exposed" id="id_577d5b3734d245648154229"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">"Mr Speaker, the decision to invade and occupy Iraq in March 2003 was the most significant foreign policy decision taken by a British government in modern times.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">It divided this House and set the government of the day against a majority of the British people as well as against the weight of global opinion.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">The war was not in any way as Sir John Chilcot says a “last resort”.</div><span class="text_exposed_hide">...</span><div class="text_exposed_show"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Frankly, it was an act of military aggression launched on a false pretext as the inquiry accepts and has long been regarded as illegal by the overwhelming weight of international legal opinion.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">It led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and the displacement of millions of refugees.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">It devastated Iraq’s infrastructure and society.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">The occupation fostered a lethal sectarianism – as the report makes clear – that turned into a civil war. Instead of protecting security at home or abroad, the war fuelled and spread terrorism across the region.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Sunday’s suicide bomb attack in Baghdad which killed over 250 people, the deadliest so far, was carried out by a group whose origins lie in the aftermath of the invasion.</div><div class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">By any measure, the invasion and occupation of Iraq has been for many a catastrophe." Jeremy Corbyn today, in the House of Commons.</div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><br class=""><pre class="">_______________________________________________
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