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<p>What does Trump have to do with anything, other than to ensure Hillary is elected? His making statements that support some of what we have been saying, is the work of a very, smart political strategist, to discredit what the left has to say. The average
American/neoliberal sees Trump as the greatest evil. His ensuring Hillary is elected is indeed evil, as she is a murderer he isn't.</p>
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<p>The Chilcot report should be a wake up call to Americans that at least the Brits, now have confirmation of what many knew that many years ago, while we, the US, continue to bomb and destroy. Hillary was a participant in all of this dating back to her support
for the invasion of Iraq, and later as Secretary of State, the destruction of Libya, regime change in Honduras, etc., along with others in the Obama administration.
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<p>The need is to concentrate on building a third party that doesn't support regime change, intervention, killing and destruction, the Green Party meets that criteria. That, along with speaking out about the impending wars, with US provocations in the S. China
Sea, on the border of Nato, and almost everywhere else across Eurasia, by way of proxies. We do that all the time, is anyone listening?
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<p>The average American only hears or sees the awful things that Trump says in respect to immigrants, people of color, women, etc. So if his supporters outnumber Hillary, he may get elected, but that is not progress, and as to his foreign policy, that stays
the same as it always has under any regime, Democrat or Republican, so anyone can say anything and it means nothing, it's their owners, who have the power, .<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Carl G. Estabrook <galliher@illinois.edu><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 6, 2016 10:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> C. G. ESTABROOK<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Karen Aram; Peace Discuss; Peace-discuss List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] Excellent critique of the Chilcot Report, by Jeremy Corbin</font>
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<div>But so long as the issue can be seen as Trump’s 'fascism,’ Hillary’s bankers and bombers needn’t worry - or care that Trump criticizes them.
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<div>On Jul 6, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">The question now is less what the Bushes pere et fils did, but what Obama and Clinton are doing and will do.
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<div>Let the dead bury their dead … what's past is prologue, what to come / In yours and my discharge.</div>
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<div>On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Thank you Stuart. The question for Americans to ask, is when will we have our "Chilcot" report, flawed though it is, seven years that it took to complete, too little, too late? </div>
<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Instead we are on the edge of allowing, by way of "democratic elections" many of those who should be prosecuted, to continue in power.<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Stuart Levy <<a href="mailto:stuartnlevy@gmail.com">stuartnlevy@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, July 6, 2016 3:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Karen Aram; Peace-discuss List; Peace Discuss<br>
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<div>Excellent - and terribly sad. But good for Corbyn for speaking out. And thanks, Karen, for forwarding this.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/16 2:32 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">"Mr Speaker, the decision to invade and occupy Iraq in March 2003 was the most significant foreign policy decision taken by a British government in modern times.</div>
<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">It divided this House and set the government of the day against a majority of the British people as well as against the weight of global opinion.</div>
<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">The war was not in any way as Sir John Chilcot says a “last resort”.</div>
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<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Frankly, it was an act of military aggression launched on a false pretext as the inquiry accepts and has long been regarded as illegal by the overwhelming weight of international legal opinion.</div>
<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">It led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and the displacement of millions of refugees.</div>
<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">It devastated Iraq’s infrastructure and society.</div>
<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">The occupation fostered a lethal sectarianism – as the report makes clear – that turned into a civil war. Instead of protecting security at home or abroad, the war fuelled and spread terrorism across the region.</div>
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<div style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">By any measure, the invasion and occupation of Iraq has been for many a catastrophe." Jeremy Corbyn today, in the House of Commons.</div>
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