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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#003300">Francis A. Boyle<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> Boyle, Francis A [mailto:fboyle@illinois.edu]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Killeacle <fboyle@uiuc.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Hillary's Campaign Director Podesta & Democratic National Committee Were for Bush's War against Iraq!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><i><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Dori Smith: Who do you think might be the most effective person to introduce this bill {of impeachment against Bush Jr} and what is in the
works in that regard?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Francis A. Boyle: We just need one person to introduce the bill with courage, integrity, principles, and of course a safe seat. In Gulf War
I, I worked with the late great Congressman Henry B. Gonzales on his bill of impeachment against Bush Sr. We put that one in. I did the first draft the day after the war started. So in my opinion there is no excuse for these bills not to have been put in already.
In fact, I think I mentioned to you before, on 11 March 2003 Congressman John Conyers convened a meeting of 40 to 50 of his top advisors, most of whom were lawyers, to debate putting in immediate bills of impeachment against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft,
to head off the war. And there were draft bills sitting on the table that had been prepared by me and Ramsey Clark. And the Congressman invited Ramsey and me to come in and state the case for impeachment. It was a two hour debate, very vigorous debate, obviously
all of these lawyers there. And most of the lawyers there didn’t disagree with us on the merits of impeachment. It was more as they saw it a question of practical politics, namely, John Podesta was there, Clinton’s former White House chief of staff; said he
was appearing on behalf of the Democratic National Committee and they were against putting in immediate bills of impeachment because it might hurt whoever their presidential candidate was going to be in 2004. Well at that time no one even knew who their presidential
candidate was going to be in 2004.<u> <o:p></o:p></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I didn’t argue the point, I’m a political independent, my position, and it was not for me to tell Democrats how to elect their candidates. I
just continued arguing the merits of impeachment. But Ramsey is a lifelong Democrat and he argued that he felt that putting in these bills of impeachment might help the Democrats and it certainly wasn’t going to hurt them in 2004.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Well the Democrats did lose in 2004 but as Ramsey and I were walking out after a two hour debate adjourned and I had offered to stay as long
as it took to polish up my bills of impeachment and get them put in right away, because the war started, it was going to start in four days.
<u><span style="color:red">I turned to Ramsey and I said Ramsey I just don’t understand it, their arguments make no sense, why did they not take me up on my offer to stay and polish up those bills of impeachment and put them in right away to head off a war.
And sadly, Ramsey said, “I think most of the people there want a war.”</span></u>
<u>That was 11 March 2003.</u> <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">It’s very clear that the high officials in the Democratic Party, certainly on the DNC, have been complicit with the Bush Administration in this
war against Iraq from the get go. The Democratic national committee still vigorously opposes putting in any bills of impeachment against Bush and Cheney.
<u>Podesta<i><span style="color:#993366"> </span>and the DNC </i> made that very clear to us on 11 March 2003.
<o:p></o:p></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><i><u><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#993366">________________________________________________</span></u></i></b><b><u><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">On Tuesday 11 March 2003, with the Bush Jr.
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">administration's war of aggression against Iraq staring the American
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">People, Congress and Republic in their face, Congressman John Conyers of
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Michigan, the Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee (which has
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">jurisdiction over Bills of Impeachment), convened an emergency meeting
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">of forty or more of his top advisors, most of whom were lawyers. The
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">purpose of the meeting was to discuss and debate immediately putting
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">into the U.S. House of Representatives Bills of Impeachment against
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">President Bush Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Donald Rumsfeld, and then Attorney General John Ashcroft in order to
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">head off the impending war. Congressman Conyers kindly requested that
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Ramsey Clark and I come to the meeting in order to argue the case for
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">impeachment.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">This impeachment debate lasted for two hours. It was presided over by
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Congressman Conyers, who quite correctly did not tip his hand one way or
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">the other on the merits of impeachment. He simply moderated the debate
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">between Clark and I, on the one side, favoring immediately filing Bills
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">of Impeachment against Bush Jr. et al. to stop the threatened war, and
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">almost everyone else there who were against impeachment for partisan
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">political reasons. Obviously no point would be served here by
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">attempting to digest a two-hour-long vigorous debate among a group of
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">well-trained lawyers on such a controversial matter at this critical
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">moment in American history. But at the time I was struck by the fact
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">that this momentous debate was conducted at a private office right down
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">the street from the White House on the eve of war.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Suffice it to say that most of the "experts" there opposed impeachment
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">not on the basis of enforcing the Constitution and the Rule of Law,
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">whether international or domestic, but on the political grounds that it
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">might hurt the Democratic Party effort to get their presidential
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">candidate elected in the year 2004. As a political independent, I did
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">not argue that point. Rather, I argued the merits of impeaching Bush
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Jr., Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft under the United States
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Constitution, U.S. federal laws, U.S. treaties and other international
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">agreements to which the United States is a party, etc. Article VI of
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">the U.S. Constitution provides that treaties "shall be the supreme Law
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">of the Land." This so-called Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">also applies to international executive agreements concluded under the
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">auspices of the U.S. President such as the 1945 Nuremberg Charter.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Congressman Conyers was so kind as to allow me the closing argument in
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">the debate. Briefly put, the concluding point I chose to make was
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">historical: The Athenians lost their democracy. The Romans lost their
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Republic. And if we Americans did not act now we could lose our
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Republic! The United States of America is not immune to the laws of
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">history!<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">After two hours of most vigorous debate among those in attendance, the
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">meeting adjourned with second revised draft Bills of Impeachment sitting
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">on the table.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Certainly, if the U.S. House of Representatives can impeach President
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Clinton for sex and lying about sex, then a fortiori the House can,
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">should, and must impeach President Bush Jr. for war, lying about war,
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">and threatening more wars. All that is needed is for one Member of
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Congress with courage, integrity, principles and a safe seat to file
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">these currently amended draft Bills of Impeachment against Bush Jr.,
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Cheney, Rumsfeld, and now Attorney General Albert Gonzales, who bears
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">personal criminal responsibility for the Bush Jr. administration torture
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">scandal. Failing this, the alternative is likely to be an American
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Empire abroad, a U.S. police state at home, and continuing wars of
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">aggression to sustain both-along the lines of George Orwell's classic
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">novel
<i>1984.</i> Despite all of the serious flaws demonstrated by successive <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">United States governments that this author has amply documented
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">elsewhere during the past quarter century as a Professor of Law, the
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">truth of the matter is that America is still the oldest Republic in the
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">world today. "We the People of the United States" must fight to keep it
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">that way!
<i><u>Podesta<span style="color:#993366"> </span>and the DNC did not!<o:p></o:p></u></i></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">[Francis A. Boyle is a Professor of International Law and a human rights<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">attorney. He is the author of "Destroying World Order" (2004, Clarity<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Press).]<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Francis A. B</span>oyle<o:p></o:p></i></b></p>
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