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<p>I do agree that Obama is responsible for all his actions, and likely did know what the plan would be if elected. He would not have been elected if the powers that be, didn't think they could manage him, as we now see with Trump, a wild card, who is likely not
to do as planned. We know that Johnson didn't want to de escalate the war in Vietnam until his "advisors" told him that's what they wanted done.
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<p>I want to ensure that people don't put their faith in one leader to solve problems, on the assumption that one leader has caused the problems. <br>
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<div>The remarkable thing is that Trump has indicated that he’s anti-interventionist, and that’s sent the the neocons fleeing from the Republicans to Clinton, a reliable warmonger (if not so adept at dissimulation about it as Obama).
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<div class="">"The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times — taking a breather from its relentless low-rent Putin smears — demands that he is not elected. Something is up. These
tribunes of 'perpetual war' are terrified that the multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with China’s Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of
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<div class="">I actually think that the Clinton campaign is panicking (is the election much closer than the pollsters say?), because they know that the war that Clinton will conduct in office is a losing issue in the campaign. That’s why Clinton is making hysterical
claims about the alt-right - and it’s sponsorship by Putin! (See e.g. <<a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/clinton-bolsters-the-alt-right/" class="">http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/clinton-bolsters-the-alt-right/</a>>.)</div>
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<div class="">Foreign policy is peculiarly the province of the president (more so now than the Founders intended). Obama didn’t have to go back on his 2008 election promises - no one was holding his daughters hostage until he sent 30,00 more troops to Afghanistan
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<div class="">But I agree with you that progressive change (civil rights, Vietnam withdrawal) comes not from winning elections but from mass movements. Our job is to generate one. </div>
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<div class="">In the absence of an accurate analysis of a situation, the best will in the world will do the right thing only by accident. Our job is to present an accurate analysis - to inform people of good will of the crimes that their chosen leaders are
committing. —CGE</div>
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This gives the impression that Obama is waging war all on his own, as if he is an all powerful King, without support from the administration, military, foreign policy advisors, corporate elites and Congress. Given the lack of concern or dissent coming from
members of the government, who are well informed, one must hold them accountable as well. The impression that replacement of a leader might bring about change in foreign policy is misleading.The US government is making war in eight countries and likely will
do so no matter who is elected President, unless the American people rise up against these crimes against humanity. This will only be accomplished through mass movements, not at the electoral box which has already been rigged. The American people need to
get angry at our government, and not assume there is hope for change if only the "right person" is placed in the White House. The problem is not one person/one leader but a system controlled by the 1% elite who profit from trade pacts, the proliferation of
wars, and control of other nations resources.
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<span style="text-decoration: underline" class=""><b class=""><i class="">President Obama is making war in eight countries;</i></b></span></div>
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<span style="text-decoration: underline" class=""><b class=""><i class="">he is sending U.S. ‘special forces’ into more than half the world’s countries - to kidnap, torture, and kill ‘bad guys’; </i></b></span></div>
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<span style="text-decoration: underline" class=""><b class=""><i class="">he has assassinated thousands by drone - the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times - including US citizens; </i></b></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; font-size: 13px;" class=""><b class="">Contact the president (202-456-1111) and our representatives in Congress (202-224-3121):</b></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; font-size: 13px;" class=""><b class="">tell them to end the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least half, bring the</b></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; font-size: 13px;" class=""><b class="">troops home, and close the U.S. military’s 1,000 foreign bases; stop U.S. support for - and </b></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; text-align: center; font-size: 13px;" class=""><b class="">arms sales to - human rights abusers like Israel, and lead on global nuclear disarmament. </b></div>
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<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span></i>Senator Dick Durbin<i class=""> - <<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.durbin.senate.gov_contact_email&d=CwMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=7JoKjNf4wwHjiAFNVA7s36Ily11o80mrOwp6fOHi4io&s=IsOLY0ickHQUyITmK3kCySzD2Vm8pFl20meUA5EK1as&e=" class="">http://www.durbin.senate.gov/contact/email</a>><br class="">
<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span></i>Senator Mark Kirk<i class=""> - <<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.kirk.senate.gov_-3Fp-3Dcomment-5Fon-5Flegislation&d=CwMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=7JoKjNf4wwHjiAFNVA7s36Ily11o80mrOwp6fOHi4io&s=9MsUiWDvRaWMMqO_IcSxl5J0SpgZGRH96zAA6xqQLwU&e=" class="">http://www.kirk.senate.gov/?p=comment_on_legislation</a>><br class="">
<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span></i>Representative Rodney Davis<i class=""> - <<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__rodneydavis.house.gov_contact_email-2Dme&d=CwMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=7JoKjNf4wwHjiAFNVA7s36Ily11o80mrOwp6fOHi4io&s=qzrJsIYpt5UfG59HbpLt-JQrbKjO7FDcdBjXf9oTw-E&e=" class="">https://rodneydavis.house.gov/contact/email-me</a>></i></b></div>
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When the new president (probably Hillary Clinton) is inaugurated next January, Barack Obama will have become the first US president - ever - to have been at war throughout two presidential terms. His greatest talent seems to be his ability to distract Americans
from what he’s doing. He has attacked eight countries - two more than George Bush - and is today conducting what has been called “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - his drone assassinations. He has killed thousands of civilians, including
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In a book on the last presidential campaign, he is quoted as follows:<i class=""> "'Turns out I'm really good at killing people,' Obama said quietly. 'Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.'"</i> However ironically he meant it, the quote has not
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In addition to conducting wars throughout the Mideast, the Obama administration is acting with belligerence toward China, and promoting an ongoing proxy war against Russia in Ukraine, which has already killed more people than Israel killed (with US permission)
in Gaza in 2014. He is risking war in both places, even nuclear war. The president also commands through the National Security Council a 70,000-member private army, the Special Operations Command, active in half the countries of the world. Their operations
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<i class="">Hillary Clinton, responsible for horrors in Honduras, Libya, Syria and elsewhere, as president would only continue and intensify the warmongering of recent administrations, the blowback from which is now producing terrorist attacks in Europe and
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<b class="">Syria. </b>The Obama administration is responsible for the vicious civil war in Syria that has killed thousands and flooded Europe with refugees. The disclosure by former US intelligence chief Lt. General Michael Flynn that the Obama administration
was well aware from as early as 2012 that its covert support to anti-government militants in Syria was fomenting jihadist terrorism was a rare moment of honesty. Obama’s Secretary of State at that crucial time was Hillary Clinton. In that regard, Republican
presidential candidate Donald Trump is right to say that Obama and Clinton “created” Islamic State and other related jihadist terrorist groups. [F. Cunningham]</div>
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<b class="">Yemen. </b>One of the poorest countries in the world, Yemen is being destroyed by Saudi Arabia, with the active support of the Obama administration. Saudi Arabia, one of the two chief clients of the US in the Mideast (the other is Israel) has been
bombing and shelling Yemen for 16 months. The UN puts the civilian death toll at 3700, but it is probably much higher. This rain of destruction was made possible by the material and moral support of the United States, which supplied most of the bombers, bombs,
and missiles required for the aerial onslaught. Saudi Arabia is a major contributor to the Clinton Foundation.</div>
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<b class="">The Mideast</b> has been a particular concern of all recent presidential administrations because of its vast stock of oil and natural gas. In the last two generations, US executive branch leaders have killed, wounded and made homeless well over
20 million human beings, many in the Mideast, in order to control those resources. The US doesn’t need oil from the Mideast, but Mideast gas and oil are needed by America’s economic competitors in Europe and Asia, and so control over them gives the US a major
advantage over China, Germany, and other countries; that control benefits only the American economic elite - the one percent - and not Americans in general, who’ve seen wealth concentrate in fewer and fewer hands at an accelerating rate throughout the Clinton,
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<i class="">President Obama has fallen in with this pattern and extended it through two terms. Every indications is that these crimes will continue in the new administration, unless Americans demand that they cease.</i></div>
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