<div dir="ltr">That's an excellent idea. Apparently, Clinton, as SOS, went through 13 different blackberries...<div><br></div><div>Amanda</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Boyle, Francis A <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fboyle@illinois.edu" target="_blank">fboyle@illinois.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#993366">At the time my prior calculation was that if I dressed up a guy in a Kangaroo outfit, all of the Media and the Audience would focus on the Kangaroo, thus
associating everything she was saying about the Gitmo Kangaroo Courts with the Kangaroo and completely discrediting her. It worked. So maybe someone can show up at Killer Koh’s lecture on October 28 dressed up as a Blackberry, stand in front of the Law Auditorium
before the Lecture, and then sit directly in front of him for the entire lecture without saying anything. You won’t have to a word. Just be there. Everyone will get the Message about him and Clinton.fab.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:SECTNS.aals@lists.aals.org" target="_blank">SECTNS.aals@lists.aals.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> FW: Gitmo Kangaroo Courts<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">"I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American."</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<h2>Speaker defends military tribunals<u></u><u></u></h2>
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<p>Law professor Francis Boyle (front) and "Wedgie the Kangaroo" listen to a speech on Military Tribunals given by Ruth Wedgewood on Thursday afternoon in the Law Building's Rowe Auditorium. Troubled by the "Kangaroo" courts the President ordered last year,
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<p>Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood defended President George W. Bush's military tribunals to protesters who believed these courts violate human rights.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Wedgewood helped draft proposals to prosecute about 150 detained, suspected terrorists in military tribunals rather than jury trials. She explained in a Thursday afternoon lecture that tribunals provide more options for submitting evidence. It is easier
to build a case, so the process is faster than the traditional trials, Wedgewood said. Detainees cannot appeal the decision.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>University law professor Francis Boyle gathered students in Amnesty International and the American Civil Liberties Union to protest the lecture. A kangaroo-costumed person stood outside the Max L. Rowe Auditorium in the Law Building. They passed out flyers
encouraging audience members to ask Wedgewood questions not addressed in the lecture.
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<p>"I felt we needed to make a statement," said Boyle. "These kangaroo courts are un-American."<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Protesters argued the tribunals jump to the conclusion that the detainees are guilty and that President George W. Bush's proposed military courts will aid in the mistreatment of suspects held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>"They are set up as a conviction conveyor belt; no one has ever been found not guilty," said law student Tony Weiner.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>But, Wedgewood argued against the assumptions that tribunals lead to predetermined guilt handed down by harsh military personnel.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>"Military people are engaging, morally concerned people," Wedgewood said.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Wedgewood told the skeptical audience that the U.S. court system cannot adapt to the terrorism situation.
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<p>"September 11 did not have a chance to morph federal district courts," said Wedgewood. "Military commissions give more latitude. It's the traditional way that the law has been enforced."<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Yale law professor Ruth Wedgewood listens to questions Thursday in the Law Building during her speech about military tribunals ordered by President George W. Bush for non-U.S. citizens suspected of involvement with terrorism.
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<p>She said military tribunals fit the nation's constantly changing view of the conflict with Islamic Fundamentalists.
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<p>"We did not understand the Islamic World and didn't know the depth of anger until 9-11," said Wedgewood.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>She explained jurors could be in danger if they are forced to participate in verdicts against detainees because of unpredictable violence.
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<p>Retired attorney George Brazitis praised Wedgewood's ability as a speaker but disagreed with the content.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>"She has the best possible case for the Bush administration viewpoint," Brazitis said. "President Bush would need to amend the constitution to carry out all of the wars that he is proposing."<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Those opposing the "kangaroo courts" say the United States is not in a war and should not try detainees in that fashion. Before Nov. 13, 2001, military tribunals were last implemented during World War II.
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<p>"(Wedgewood) doesn't address major problems as to whether we even have a war, nor the violation of the constitutional provision that war can only be declared by Congress," Brazitis said.
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<p>Some audience members did not have definite views, though.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>"I have problems with both approaches, we need to do something but I do not know the right approach," law student Adam Keser said.
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