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My comment on the debates last night: I didn’t watch because they only represent the two party imperialist system.
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<div class="">This is what the U of I Student Greens were doing, and my support goes to them and the Green Party.</div>
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<div class="">On Sep 27, 2016, at 06:05, Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1474926980877_105978" class=""><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1474926980877_106205" class="">The head of ISIS is a former prisoner at Abu Ghraib, so if you want to blame any American politicians, I'd suggest Rumsfeld and Cheney.</span></div>
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