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    You need to get off your pedestal, Mizz Aram. Who died and made you
    justice of all?  Good night Irene, you're a self-righteous pain in
    the wazoo. Go back to your copying and pasting sans sourcing.<br>
    <br>
    Karen Capel<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/10/2016 11:06 PM, Karen Aram via
      Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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      Another troll, Gregg, who has nothing of value to add, just
      insults. No concern for the issues facing humanity, just insults.
       
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            <div class="">On Oct 10, 2016, at 20:50, Gregg Gordon via
              Peace-discuss <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>>
              wrote:</div>
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                              class="">From:</span></b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>C. G.
                          Estabrook <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com"
                            class="">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a>><br
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                          <b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"
                              class="">To:</span></b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gregg
                          Gordon <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com" class="">ggregg79@yahoo.com</a>><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                          <b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"
                              class="">Cc:</span></b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John
                          W. <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jbw292002@gmail.com" class="">jbw292002@gmail.com</a>>;
                          peace <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net"
                            class="">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>>;
                          Peace-discuss List <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"
                            class="">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>>;
                          sf-core <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:sf-core@yahoogroups.com"
                            class="">sf-core@yahoogroups.com</a>>;
                          Occupy CU <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:occupy.cu@gmail.com" class="">occupy.cu@gmail.com</a>><br
                            class="">
                          <b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"
                              class="">Sent:</span></b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
                          October 10, 2016 10:32 PM<br class="">
                          <b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"
                              class="">Subject:</span></b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                          [Peace-discuss] [Peace] What last night's
                          debate should have been about<br class="">
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                        Verbally. But Clinton’s stomping killed a lot of
                        people. As Trump said, she should be in jail -
                        in The Hague, awaiting trial on war crimes
                        charges. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                          > On Oct 10, 2016, at 10:19 PM, Gregg
                          Gordon <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            shape="rect"
                            ymailto="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com"
                            href="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com" class="">ggregg79@yahoo.com</a>>
                          wrote:<br class="" clear="none">
                          ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                          > You're right.  He did a lot of stomping.<br
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                          > From: C. G. Estabrook <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true" shape="rect"
                            ymailto="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com"
                            href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com"
                            class="">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a>><br
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                          > To: Gregg Gordon <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true" shape="rect"
                            ymailto="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com"
                            href="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com" class="">ggregg79@yahoo.com</a>><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                          > Cc: John W. <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            shape="rect"
                            ymailto="mailto:jbw292002@gmail.com"
                            href="mailto:jbw292002@gmail.com" class="">jbw292002@gmail.com</a>>;
                          peace <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            shape="rect"
                            ymailto="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net"
                            href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net"
                            class="">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>>;
                          Peace-discuss List <<a
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href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>>;
                          sf-core <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            shape="rect"
                            ymailto="mailto:sf-core@yahoogroups.com"
                            href="mailto:sf-core@yahoogroups.com"
                            class="">sf-core@yahoogroups.com</a>>;
                          Occupy CU <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            shape="rect"
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                            href="mailto:occupy.cu@gmail.com" class="">occupy.cu@gmail.com</a>><br
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                          > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:10 PM<br
                            class="" clear="none">
                          > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] What
                          last night's debate should have been about<br
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                          > Trump was quite clear and concise in
                          Sunday’s debate when he stomped on Pence’s
                          neocon fire-breathing on Syria: “I didn’t talk
                          to him and he’s wrong”!<br class=""
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                          > —CGE<br class="" clear="none">
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                          > > On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:56 PM, Gregg
                          Gordon via Peace-discuss <<a
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                            ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>>
                          wrote:<br class="" clear="none">
                          > ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                          > > When he attempted to address policy,
                          it came out as an incoherent string of
                          seemingly random phrases in no particular
                          order -- nothing approaching a complete
                          sentence, not sure there was a subject OR a
                          verb in there.  Carl's quote must have gotten
                          some help from the journalist who quoted him,
                          just to find places to put punctuation.<br
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                          > > From: John W. via Peace <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true" shape="rect"
                            ymailto="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net"
                            href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net"
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                          > > To: C. G. Estabrook <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true" shape="rect"
                            ymailto="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com"
                            href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com"
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                          > > Cc: peace <<a
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                            ymailto="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net"
                            href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net"
                            class="">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>>;
                          Peace-discuss List <<a
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                            ymailto="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"
href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>>;
                          sf-core <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            shape="rect"
                            ymailto="mailto:sf-core@yahoogroups.com"
                            href="mailto:sf-core@yahoogroups.com"
                            class="">sf-core@yahoogroups.com</a>>;
                          Occupy CU <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          > > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 8:12
                          PM<br class="" clear="none">
                          > > Subject: Re: [Peace] What last
                          night's debate should have been about<br
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                          > ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                          > > Vote for Donald Trump.  He's a
                          foreign policy genius!<br class=""
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                          > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:47 PM, C.
                          G. Estabrook via Peace <<a
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                          wrote:<br class="" clear="none">
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                          > ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></a>2016/10/10/hillary-clinton-
                          candidate-of-war/<br class="" clear="none">
                          > ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                          > > ...“Now, she talks tough,” [Trump]
                          said of Clinton: “She talks really tough
                          against Putin and against Assad. She talks in
                          favor of the rebels. She doesn’t even know who
                          the rebels are. You know, every time we take
                          rebels whether it’s in Iraq or anywhere else,
                          we’re arming people. And you know what
                          happens? They end up being worse than the
                          people [they overthrow]. Look at what she did
                          in Libya with Gaddafi.  Gaddafi is out. It’s a
                          mess. And by the way, ISIS has a good chunk of
                          their oil. I’m sure you’ve probably have heard
                          that. It was a disaster. The fact is almost
                          everything she has done has been a mistake and
                          it’s been a disaster.”<br class=""
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                          > ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                          > > Trump’s comment was correct, more or
                          less ... Hillary Clinton has made it crystal
                          clear. Anyone who votes for her is voting for
                          greatly expanded warfare in the Middle East
                          and probably military confrontation with
                          Russia elsewhere as well. As bad as things are
                          in Syria, in a few months they could get a lot
                          worse...<br class="" clear="none">
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