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Please keep this off the Peace list. Peace-discuss is pretty much
open, but we should keep "peace" for announcements and calls to
action, rather than general discussions.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/16/16 9:51 AM, Karen Aram via
Peace wrote:<br>
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<div class="">The articles are not contradictory.</div>
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I suggest you try “reading," thats why I post, for those who maybe
interested in reading, I’m not attempting to contact you
“personally,” no need for paranoia.
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<div class="">I did ask Stuart to send you instructions on how
to “delete”, you do know how to delete don’t you? </div>
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<div class="">On Nov 16, 2016, at 06:33, Gregg Gordon <<a
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class="">Yes, I told you to leave me alone, and
you won't do it. Now you've sent me two
articles -- neither from a credible source --
making completely contradictory arguments. What
am I (or anyone) supposed to do with that?</span></div>
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<b class=""><span
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Karen Aram <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b class=""><span style="font-weight:
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Gordon <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b class=""><span style="font-weight:
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class="">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>>;
Peace Discuss <<a
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November 16, 2016 8:20 AM<br class="">
<b class=""><span style="font-weight:
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Re: [Peace] Bring on the protesters we
really need them now, if these two guys
are the choices.......<br class="">
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class="">Speaking with you Greg, is a
headache because you just want to argue,
complain and make personal attacks, you
don’t stick to the issues. Also, the
last time I sent something out you told
me personally to leave you alone.
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id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479226941163_84909"> To
be clear, I have never supported
Trump or any republican, I spent
five years working with and
organizing the US Democrats Abroad
in Thailand, volunteerism, when
living there. That was before
Clinton, and I voted for Obama’s
“hope and change”. Now that I know
what they have done I will never
support the Democratic Party again. </div>
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<div class="yiv6594009131"
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will support local democrats on an
individual basis of course, based
upon their performance, goals and
values. </div>
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<div class="yiv6594009131"
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479226941163_84921">It’s
time Americans rebuild our nation
and its going to require a lot of
work, maybe now they have awakened
to the fact that concern with
politics is important and we have a
lot of work to do. Had Hillary been
elected people would have gone to
sleep and assumed everything was
alright, just as they did when Obama
was elected. </div>
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have very serious issues of concern
and we need to deal with them. </div>
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Nov 16, 2016, at 06:04,
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Aram <<a
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<b
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Wednesday,
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2016 7:57 AM<br
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<b
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[Peace] Bring on
the protesters
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these two guys
are the
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War Less
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Wake of Trump
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“Trump says he
wants to
cooperate with
the Syrians
and the
Russians to
defeat ISIS.”<br
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With so many
people who
call
themselves
liberals and
leftists
tearing their
hair out in
dread of a
President
Donald Trump,
it is
necessary to
point out that
the prospects
of avoiding
nuclear war
are much
better than
they were the
day before the
election.
Hillary
Clinton was
committed to
imposing a “no
fly zone” over
Syria that
would have
meant instant
war with
Russia, likely
resulting in
the
annihilation
of the human
species. You’d
think that
would have
made Clinton
anathema to
decent people.
But Americans,
including
those who call
themselves
liberals, are
not decent
people – not
really. Based
on their
political
behavior, they
just pretend
to be decent,
but support
U.S.
governments
that have
slaughtered
millions since
the end of
World War Two.
If you voted
for Obama and
Clinton, you
gave your
assent to
continuing
George Bush’s
wars, allowing
Obama to start
two major wars
of his own, in
Libya and
Syria, and to
Hillary
Clinton’s
plans to roll
the nuclear
dice on the
fate of
humanity. The
whole world
knows that
Americans are
dangerous, to
themselves and
to others.
But, decent?
Since when,
and to whom?<br
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Donald Trump
looks and
talks like the
ugly, racist,
bullying
American --
and he is
exactly that,
but he hasn’t
killed anybody
yet, and his
public
statements
have been of a
far more
peaceful
nature than
the woman he
beat at the
polls. Trump
says he wants
to cooperate
with the
Syrians and
the Russians
to defeat
ISIS. Trump
also does not
make
distinctions
between the
various
Islamic
jihadist
groups in
Syria, unlike
the Obama
administration,
which has
directly and
indirectly
armed and
funded all of
the jihadist
groups, and
has spent much
of the last
several months
trying to
protect the al
Nusra Front,
the al Qaida
affiliate in
eastern
Aleppo, from
Russian
bombing. <br
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“The jihadists
are in
despair, and
the prospects
for driving
them out of
Aleppo look
promising.”<br
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No sooner had
the votes been
counted, than
President
Obama ordered
U.S. Special
Forces to go
all-out to
kill the
leadership of
al-Nusra. <br
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This war has
been entirely
based on lies,
so Obama will
probably limit
his Kill List
to al Qaida
leaders, while
sparing the
rank and file
jihadist
fighters for
future use by
the United
States. But it
is safe to say
that, had
Hillary
Clinton been
elected, the
most warlike
factions in
the U.S.
military, the
CIA, the State
Department,
and the
foreign policy
establishment
at-large would
be setting the
stage for
full-scale
confrontation
with Russia
and all of
Syria’s allies
under
President
Clinton.
Instead, the
jihadists are
in despair,
and the
prospects for
driving them
out of Aleppo
look
promising.
Hopefully, the
Syrian
government and
its friends
will be on the
road to
victory before
Donald Trump’s
presidency is
decisively
captured by
the bipartisan
War Party that
runs the
empire. <br
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Syrian
President
Bashar Assad
says it’s fine
with him if
Trump wants to
fight the
terrorists.
But, Assad
isn’t sure
that Trump can
deliver on his
campaign
pledge. “What
about the
countervailing
forces within
the
administration,
the mainstream
media that
were against
him?” Assad
asks. Assad
thinks the
notion of
Trump bucking
the War Party
is “dubious.”
He’s right.
Half a million
Syrians are
dead because
most Americans
don’t much
care who their
government
kills, as long
as they’re not
white. But,
getting rid of
Clinton has
slowed the War
Party down a
bit, and maybe
prevented a
nuclear war.
If you are a
decent person,
you should be
pleased about
that.<br
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preferable to
Clinton. At
least he won't
start a war
with Russia,
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<b
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[Peace] Bring
on the
protesters we
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them now, if
these two guys
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Trump transition points to escalation of US militarism</h2>
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By Bill Van Auken
16 November 2016</h5>
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Multiple media reports that former New York City Republican Mayor Rudolph Giuliani is president-elect Donald Trump’s top choice for secretary of state have provided further indication of the extreme right-wing and militarily bellicose character of the incoming
US administration.</div>
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A senior Trump campaign official told the Associated Press Tuesday that Giuliani was the favorite for the post, while indicating that the equally right-wing and militaristic former US ambassador to the United Nations under the administration of George W. Bush,
John Bolton, was also in the running.</div>
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The fact that these two—both adamant supporters of every US war over the past quarter century—are the front-runners for the top foreign policy position in the incoming Republican administration gives the lie to Trump’s pretensions on the campaign trail that
he was somehow opposed to recent US military interventions and “nation building.”</div>
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Trump’s phony claims that he had been against the Iraq war were meant to appeal to popular hostility to the endless US military interventions with which his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton was so clearly identified. At the same time, however, he repeatedly
advocated a major increase in US military spending and a modernization of Washington’s nuclear arsenal.</div>
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His “America First” rhetoric and promotion of economic nationalism go hand-in-hand with a further escalation of a US campaign of global military aggression that has brought the planet ever closer to a third world war.</div>
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According to a report in the <em class="yiv6594009131" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;">Wall Street Journal</em>, the former New York mayor is openly pushing for his own appointment. Giuliani, the newspaper said, “suggested several times that he would be interested
in the [secretary of state] post” during remarks delivered Monday to the <em class="yiv6594009131" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;">Wall Street Journal</em> CEO Council in Washington, a gathering billed as an “unparalleled opportunity for business leaders to
learn the myriad implications of the biggest change in Washington in many years.”</div>
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In his remarks, Giuliani insisted that the so-called war on ISIS would be the administration’s first priority, making clear that the global “war on terror” that has been used to justify wars throughout the Middle East and Central Asia will continue. The former
New York mayor, who has never tired of waving the bloody shirt of 9/11 to promote his own political and personal fortune and to obscure the rampant corruption that characterized his administration, is heavily invested in this policy, though he has played no
role in its implementation.</div>
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Asked about Trump’s demands for ripping up the nuclear deal with Iran, Giuliani replied, “You have to set priorities. So if the priority is, let’s eliminate ISIS, maybe you put that off a little bit. And you get rid of ISIS and then get back to that.” In other
words, a new US war with Iran remains on the agenda of the incoming administration. During his run for the presidency in 2008, Giuliani said that the use of tactical nuclear weapons against Iran’s nuclear program could not be taken “off the table.”</div>
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And, while Trump has spoken in vague terms of a rapprochement with Russia—and was repeatedly denounced from the right by the Democrats as a puppet of Vladimir Putin—Giuliani sounded a more threatening tone toward Moscow, suggesting military confrontation as
a means of shifting relations with Moscow.</div>
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“Russia thinks it’s a military competitor, it really isn’t,” Giuliani said. “It’s our unwillingness under Obama to even threaten the use of our military that makes Russia so powerful.”</div>
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While Giuliani has no foreign policy experience whatsoever, he is a prominent Trump loyalist and a longtime proponent of police state methods of rule. During his tenure as mayor, he was identified with a repressive “stop and frisk” program—later ruled unconstitutional—that
turned virtually every minority and working class youth in the city into a suspect and resulted in a series of egregious police murders of innocent victims like Amadou Diallo and Patrick Dorismond that he vehemently defended.</div>
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Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, he proposed that mayoral elections in New York be called off and that he be granted a new unelected term as the only man capable of confronting terrorism. More recently, he has suggested that the anti-Trump demonstrations
that have swept the country should be met with police repression.</div>
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His apparent principal rival for the secretary of state post, John Bolton, is every bit as reactionary and a pathological supporter of unilateral US military aggression. Barely a year and a half ago, Bolton penned an opinion piece for the <em class="yiv6594009131" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;">New
York Times</em> titled “To Stop Iran’s Bomb, Bomb Iran.” His prescription was for intensive bombing followed by “regime change.”</div>
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Bolton rose to prominence in Republican circles after serving as a lawyer in the George W. Bush campaign’s successful operation to steal the 2000 election by halting the vote count in Florida.</div>
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He was an advocate of a US war for regime change in Iraq at least since 1998. In 2002, he was the State Department’s undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security, playing a key role in preparing the war of aggression against Iraq the following
year by promoting the lies that Saddam Hussein was developing “weapons of mass destruction” and preparing to hand them over to Al Qaeda.</div>
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Bolton, described by one of his former colleagues at the State Department as “the quintessential kiss up, kick down kind of guy,” was named ambassador to the United Nations in an August 2005 recess appointment by the Bush administration that was meant to serve
as a deliberate provocation toward the UN, for which Bolton had repeatedly and publicly declared his contempt.</div>
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Both Giuliani and Bolton—like president-elect Trump—have defended the use of torture by the Pentagon and the CIA at Guantanamo, Bagram Air Base and black sites around the world.</div>
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The discussion of a possible appointment of either Giuliani or Bolton as the face of US foreign policy is every bit as revealing as the naming Sunday of the outright fascist Steve Bannon as Trump’s chief White House strategist. While not indulging in the open
politics of white supremacy and anti-Semitism that has characterized Bannon’s stewardship of <em class="yiv6594009131" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;">Breitbart News</em>, these are unquestionably among the most reactionary and discredited figures in American
politics.</div>
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When an appointment would be announced was far from clear late Tuesday, with reports of the Trump transition team in a state of utter disarray and beset by bitter internecine conflicts. Former Michigan Republican congressman Mike Rogers, who was brought in
to advise Trump on national security and was thought to be a possible nominee for CIA director, has been pushed out of the transition process, following the earlier purge of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, who was hastily replaced by vice president-elect
Mike Pence as head of the overall transition operation.</div>
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The <em class="yiv6594009131" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;">Washington Post</em> reported Tuesday that the expulsion of Christie and his allies was carried out in apparent “retaliation for Christie’s role as a US prosecutor in sending [Trump’s son-in-law
Jared] Kushner’s father to prison” when he was a federal prosecutor.</div>
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Christie’s ouster effectively placed the transition on hold as far as the Obama administration is concerned as the New Jersey governor was the signatory of a document establishing the framework for the process.</div>
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The chaos and divisions within the Trump camp were also spelled out in an about-face by a former Republican national security official, Eliot Cohen, who had previously led similar figures in denouncing Trump as unfit for the presidency. In an open letter published
last week in the <em class="yiv6594009131" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;">American Interest,</em> he argued that a Trump presidency “may be better than we think,” and that checks and balances and bureaucratic inertia would restrain the incoming administration.</div>
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In a tweet early Tuesday, Cohen wrote: “After exchange w Trump transition team, changed my recommendation: stay away. They’re angry, arrogant, screaming ‘you LOST!’ Will be ugly.”</div>
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