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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No thank you !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You just revealed who and what you are.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David J.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gregg Gordon [mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 21, 2016 7:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> David Johnson<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Urge Champaign County Dems to back Keith Ellison for DNC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311811"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you. Now suck it some more. I'm not finished coming on your tonsils.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311812"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311818"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311817"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311816"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311815"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> David Johnson <davidjohnson1451@comcast.net><br><b>To:</b> 'Gregg Gordon' <ggregg79@yahoo.com>; peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 21, 2016 7:34 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Urge Champaign County Dems to back Keith Ellison for DNC</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311822"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv1011881265><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311900"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311899"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311898"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Oh my !</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311903"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>What an intelligent and eloquent response.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>David J.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311905"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv1011881265yqt19019><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311910"><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311909"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311908"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> Gregg Gordon [mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Johnson<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Urge Champaign County Dems to back Keith Ellison for DNC</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311913"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311916"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283788"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311915"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Suck my dick, that's who.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283789"><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt' id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_311920"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283794"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283793"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283792"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283791"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> David Johnson <davidjohnson1451@comcast.net><br><b>To:</b> 'Gregg Gordon' <ggregg79@yahoo.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 20, 2016 7:50 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Urge Champaign County Dems to back Keith Ellison for DNC</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283814"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv1011881265><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283818"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283817"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283816"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Again, who the hell do you think you are ?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283821"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>You’re not the moderator of this list.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283824"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>If you don’t like what you see then the solution is very simple. Click your delete button and move on with your life !</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283826"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283829"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Kind Regards</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283831"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283834"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>David Johnson</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_283836"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id=yiv1011881265yqt52907><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> Gregg Gordon [mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 20, 2016 7:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Johnson<br><b>Cc:</b> peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Urge Champaign County Dems to back Keith Ellison for DNC</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_257899"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I'm not dictating what is on the peace-discuss list. I'm not on the peace-discuss list, which is why I want you to have this discussion there, where I won't be bothered. I want the peace list to be reserved for its intended purpose of informing people about events of possible interest. But you people won't respect that.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_257900"><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258022"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258021"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258020"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258019"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> David Johnson <davidjohnson1451@comcast.net><br><b>To:</b> 'Gregg Gordon' <ggregg79@yahoo.com> <br><b>Cc:</b> peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 20, 2016 7:30 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Urge Champaign County Dems to back Keith Ellison for DNC</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258161"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id=yiv1011881265><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258166"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258165"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258164"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Who do you think you are to dictate terms as to what is appropriate for the Peace Discuss list ?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258168"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258170"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>David Johnson</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258172"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id=yiv1011881265yqt38688><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258175"><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in' id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258174"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_258177"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gregg Gordon via Peace-discuss<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 20, 2016 5:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> Karen Aram; David Green<br><b>Cc:</b> Robert Naiman; Peace-discuss List; C. G. Estabrook<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Urge Champaign County Dems to back Keith Ellison for DNC</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246814"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246815"><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Quit abusing the peace list. Put this on peace-discuss only.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246870"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246869"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246868"><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246867"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> Karen Aram via Peace <peace@lists.chambana.net><br><b>To:</b> David Green <davegreen84@yahoo.com> <br><b>Cc:</b> Robert Naiman <naiman@justforeignpolicy.org>; peace <peace@lists.chambana.net>; Peace-discuss List <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>; C. G. Estabrook <carl@newsfromneptune.com><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:49 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Urge Champaign County Dems to back Keith Ellison for DNC</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246874"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id=yiv1011881265><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246873"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I couldn’t disagree with Robert Naiman more on this topic. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246876"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Glen Ford is more than just a nice man, he is very prescient, and right on target here as well as most things. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246985"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479375902699_246878"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Ellison, maybe nice, and he fits the bill as a token for what the DNC needs or wants to spiff up their image. He’s Black, a Muslim, and articulate, okay he’s not a woman, but they tried that one recently….... However, he supports war, and will offer the continuity that the Democratic Party wants in respect to US foreign policy, and hegemony, just in case the Republicans under Trump don’t comply. Maybe McCain is an extreme example, in so far as rhetoric is concerned, but hey the Democrats have always used words of peace, and McCain is just the “bad” cop to Ellison’s (good) cop. It’s all about appearances. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id=yiv1011881265yqt41462><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Nov 20, 2016, at 14:32, David Green via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div id="yiv1011881265yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479661388993_14306"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>The question, and I mean this in all sincerity, is whether serious and decent people should care who becomes the head of the DNC; or whether, given the financial basis for the DP, it doesn't really matter in the larger bourgeois scheme of things.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Sunday, November 20, 2016 3:14 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div id=yiv1011881265><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I like Glen Ford as an individual human being. He's had me on his radio show. He's a very nice, affable guy. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>But as an authority on the topic at hand - and this piece is from three years ago - Glen Ford is not credible. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Anyone who thinks that there's not a dime's worth of difference between Ellison and McCain on war and peace is not a serious person. It's a free country. People can say whatever they want. You can be a Truther, a Birther, an anti-vaxxer. But, given that people have other things to do with their lives, people who are serious shouldn't waste time with such things. And, of course, people who support the Green Party are not meaningful authority on the affairs of progressive Democrats. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Here are the three serious candidates. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://theintercept.com/2016/11/15/race-for-next-dnc-chair-is-between-americas-first-muslim-congressman-and-two-corporate-lobbyists/" target="_blank">https://theintercept.com/2016/11/15/race-for-next-dnc-chair-is-between-americas-first-muslim-congressman-and-two-corporate-lobbyists/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Robert Naiman<br>Policy Director<br>Just Foreign Policy<br><a href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/" target="_blank">www.justforeignpolicy.org</a><br><a href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" target="_blank">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv1011881265><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>(202) 448-2898 x1</span></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id=yiv1011881265yqt15402><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 2:58 PM, C. G. Estabrook <span class=yiv1011881265><<a href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com" target="_blank">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a>></span> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>“Ellison is part of the pro-war Left, whose primary mission is make self-described liberals and leftists comfortable supporting imperial wars.” <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/rep-keith-ellison-personification-phony-pro-war-%E2%80%9Cprogressive%E2%80%9D" target="_blank">http://www.blackagendareport. com/content/rep-keith-ellison- personification-phony-pro-war- %E2%80%9Cprogressive%E2%80%9D</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>—CGE<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>There is a central committee meeting on November 30. We'll be asking them to pass a resolution in support of Keith Ellison's candidacy to lead the DNC.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Here's our petition at MoveOn:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>@ChampaignCoDems: Back @KeithEllison for #DNCChair<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__petitions.moveon.org_sign_champaigncodems-2Dback-3Fr-5Fby-3D1135580&d=DQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=ldAG6OBO8q4pxnelPFN8Fic5NhIlw3sy-8VE3aACTWY&s=weoxkRkaz0gRR-g7_Ka1nZIn_Ne3N3R6AqR8LNqENAo&e=" target="_blank">http://petitions.moveon.org/ sign/champaigncodems-back?r_ by=1135580</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>===<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Robert Naiman<br>Policy Director<br>Just Foreign Policy<br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.justforeignpolicy.org&d=DQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=ldAG6OBO8q4pxnelPFN8Fic5NhIlw3sy-8VE3aACTWY&s=hsuwGbaPcZQKKiXAikyH78K0FAuEqheMZSITRt7NhX4&e=" target="_blank">www.justforeignpolicy.org</a><br><a href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" target="_blank">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv1011881265msohyperlink111><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>(202) 448-2898 x1</span></span><span 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