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“Mueller" was my suggestion for a name they couldn’t come up with on NFN, it turns out it was Morell, Michael.
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<div class="">In relation to Erik, “promoting fear and violence." Sorry, if I was being overly simplistic, I thought it was obvious. Standing up for our neighbors is one thing, walking around with loaded guns as vigilantes is another.</div>
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<div class="">By the way Karen, I hope you can be on AOTA to give Carl support, as I’m now taking a “break”. </div>
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<div class="">On Dec 31, 2016, at 18:24, kmedina67 via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">I am confused by your overly simplified, everyone sees the obvious problem here, assumption. </div>
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<div class="">When you wrote "Erik, really, you want white people to get loaded guns to kill other white people, in order to protect people of color?" to Mueller, were you protesting the: </div>
<div class="">*White people</div>
<div class="">*The loading of guns.</div>
<div class="">*Fear.</div>
<div class="">*The mongering of fear</div>
<div class="">*The idea that people are afraid of other people. </div>
<div class="">*The idea that white people should or should not stand up in defense of their non-white neighbors.</div>
<div class="">*The suggestion of using violence when violence is threatened by someone against someone. </div>
<div class="">*Or that Trump's speeches are not as powerful as some people claim they are. </div>
<div class="">*Protecting people of color. </div>
<div class="">*Using violence against white people. </div>
<div class="">*That white people are not all alike.</div>
<div class="">*That some white people actually commit racially motivated hate crimes.</div>
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<div class="">From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>>
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<div class="">Date: 12/31/16 11:09 (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div class="">To: "C. G. Estabrook" <<a href="mailto:cge@shout.net" class="">cge@shout.net</a>>, David Green <<a href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com" class="">davegreen84@yahoo.com</a>>
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<div class="">Subject: [Peace-discuss] NFN (News from Neptune) yesterday </div>
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Good program, I think Carl was referring to “Mueller", close to Miller, in reference to CIA. I don’t have my notes while watching, so not sure.
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<div class="">David: I think you make a good point, in respect to Erik Draitser. I used to listen to his programs faithfully, read his FB postings, to which I always received notification when he posted. </div>
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<div class="">Until after the election, when Erik was then on FB advising everyone, especially white people to get guns, loaded, to protect our “neighbors of color” as a result of the election and Trump. This was to me, worse hysteria than that which we saw
being promoted by “move <a href="http://on.org/" class="">on.org</a>” immediately after the election, and it was before the Cabinet appointments which are an indication of what’s to come. </div>
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<div class="">I responded to his email, “Erik, really, you want all white people to get loaded guns to kill other white people, in order to protect people of color?” Fomenting what I see as hysteria and “civil war” based upon race, religion, or politics, thus
being counterproductive. I was astounded that such a bright young man, who seemed to be so knowledgeable in relation to current political events, would suggest anything other than “all people need to unite against the Establishment/Elite based upon issues,
given he often referred to “class” and “capitalism" as the problem. I thought perhaps he had been hacked, but you have just confirmed my suspicions, that many on the “left” are questionable. </div>
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<div class="">I no longer receive his FB postings, maybe I’ve been blocked, given how many FB friends he has, I’m surprised anyone took note of what I said. Maybe he’s no longer doing them, but he evidently is still on Counterpunch radio. </div>
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