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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Boyle, Francis A
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 <br>
To: Editor<br>
Subject: Obama v. Bush Jr.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:red">My book “Tackling America’s Toughest Questions” (Clarity Press: 2009) sets forth a comprehensive analysis and critique of all the
hideous atrocities Bush Jr et al inflicted upon international law, human rights law, the US Constitution, and innocent human beings, especially Third World People of Color, starting from when Bush Jr et al. stole the US Presidency from the American People
courtesy of 5 Republican Justices on the US Supreme Court in the Fall of 2000. I decided to hold off writing the
<i><u>Conclusion</u></i> to that book until shortly after Obama came to power in January 2009. Therein I</span></b><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#00B050">
</span></b><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:red">prognosticated at page 174: “Despite their presidential campaign rhetoric promoting “change,” three weeks into the Obama/Clinton administration the continuity of policies
across the board with the Bush administration is striking notwithstanding their change in atmospherics. It very well could be that despite our best efforts, hopes and expectations for instituting real political “change” by means of the 2008 U.S. national
elections, the American people are going to see in operation a Third Bush Term or at least a hybrid Obama/Bush/Clinton administration…”<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:red"> People are free to disagree with me if you wish, and not to excuse Bush Jr et al., but from my perspective here, and for what
it is worth: The elemental distinction between Obama and Bush Jr is that Obama is a Lawyer who was behind me at Harvard Law School and fully comprehends his monstrous crimes and hideous atrocities against international law, human rights law, the United States
Constitution, and Muslims/Arabs/Asians of Color all over the world—America’s untermensch, Our New Jews. Ditto for Killer Koh who was also behind me at Harvard Law School. Ditto and pari passu for Obama’s Harvard/Yale Law Mafia</span></b><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#993366">.</span></b><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:red"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:red">Carl Schmitt College of Law:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:red">“Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!”<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Francis A. Boyle<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Law Building<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Champaign IL 61820 USA<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">217-333-7954 (phone)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#993366">Francis A. Boyle<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#993366">Law Building<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#993366">504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#993366">Champaign, IL 61820 USA<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#993366">217-333-7954 (phone)<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#993366">217-244-1478 (fax)<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Boyle, Francis A
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 05, 2017 5:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jay' <futureup2us@gmail.com>; Estabrook, Carl G <galliher@illinois.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> peace-discuss@anti-war.net; C. G. ESTABROOK <carl@newsfromneptune.com>; peace <Peace@lists.chambana.net>; a-fields@uiuc.edu; Hoffman, Valerie J <vhoffman@illinois.edu>; Miller, Joseph Thomas <jtmiller@illinois.edu>; Szoke, Ron <r-szoke@illinois.edu>;
sherwoodross10@gmail.com; Arlene Hickory <a23h23@yahoo.com>; David Swanson <davidcnswanson@gmail.com>; peace-discuss-request@lists.chambana.net; Dave Trippel <davetrippel@ameritech.net>; abass10@gmail.com; mickalideh@gmail.com; Lina Thorne <lina@worldcantwait.net>;
chicago@worldcantwait.net; David Green <davegreen84@yahoo.com>; Karen Aram <karenaram@hotmail.com>; Mildred O'brien <moboct1@aim.com>; 'David Johnson' <davidjohnson1451@comcast.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Peace-discuss] Inside Trump Defense Secretary Pick’s Efforts to Halt Torture - The New York Times<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">For the record: Jay’s People came all the way down from Chicago just to participate quite productively and actively in our protest
against Clinton’s Killer Koh in front of this Illinois Nazis Law School on October 28, 2016. THANKS!<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ed Norton Professor of Law<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Carl Schmitt College of Law:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!”<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">217-333-7954 (phone)<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Jay [<a href="mailto:futureup2us@gmail.com">mailto:futureup2us@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 05, 2017 4:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Estabrook, Carl G <<a href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">galliher@illinois.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Boyle, Francis A <<a href="mailto:fboyle@illinois.edu">fboyle@illinois.edu</a>>;
<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">peace-discuss@anti-war.net</a>; C. G. ESTABROOK <<a href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a>>; peace <<a href="mailto:Peace@lists.chambana.net">Peace@lists.chambana.net</a>>;
<a href="mailto:a-fields@uiuc.edu">a-fields@uiuc.edu</a>; Hoffman, Valerie J <<a href="mailto:vhoffman@illinois.edu">vhoffman@illinois.edu</a>>; Miller, Joseph Thomas <<a href="mailto:jtmiller@illinois.edu">jtmiller@illinois.edu</a>>; Szoke, Ron <<a href="mailto:r-szoke@illinois.edu">r-szoke@illinois.edu</a>>;
<a href="mailto:sherwoodross10@gmail.com">sherwoodross10@gmail.com</a>; Arlene Hickory <<a href="mailto:a23h23@yahoo.com">a23h23@yahoo.com</a>>; David Swanson <<a href="mailto:davidcnswanson@gmail.com">davidcnswanson@gmail.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:peace-discuss-request@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss-request@lists.chambana.net</a>; Dave Trippel <<a href="mailto:davetrippel@ameritech.net">davetrippel@ameritech.net</a>>;
<a href="mailto:abass10@gmail.com">abass10@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:mickalideh@gmail.com">
mickalideh@gmail.com</a>; Lina Thorne <<a href="mailto:lina@worldcantwait.net">lina@worldcantwait.net</a>>;
<a href="mailto:chicago@worldcantwait.net">chicago@worldcantwait.net</a>; David Green <<a href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">davegreen84@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] Inside Trump Defense Secretary Pick’s Efforts to Halt Torture - The New York Times<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">That article I shared is from Revolution newspaper, which is a publication of the Revolutionary Communist Party. Do we evaluate ideas based on their source, or the content? You mention only the one. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__RefuseFascism.org&d=DQMF-g&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=iioab8BLQ6IJxt-3gLhYzf1aAvTbGVgzPJj9W_0ugn0&m=9pfaJTVUN6iWUPuRLjMUrCY6fH62exQrIWr2TxGVOC0&s=S6aTWzZh6d292FWWxCNwT2mxIkk5qEEBFd-IVmR94eA&e=">RefuseFascism.org</a>
is a far far broader movement. One of the initiators is a member of the RCP, Carl Dix. Everyone is invited to check out the <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__refusefascism.org_we-2Drefuse-2Dto-2Daccept-2Da-2Dfascist-2Damerica_-23sign&d=DQMF-g&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=iioab8BLQ6IJxt-3gLhYzf1aAvTbGVgzPJj9W_0ugn0&m=9pfaJTVUN6iWUPuRLjMUrCY6fH62exQrIWr2TxGVOC0&s=3-JkpZGODm2KdUv9SA7pMhdzTzRIyN9cob5FhBZQRGo&e=">scope
& range of the people</a> who have joined in this effort, at no small risk to themselves, and the Crowdrise crowd funding site lists the donations that funded the NY Times ad. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">I’m taken aback by this red baiting. If the RCP is involved in something, it’s “their ad?” <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Jay’s note is from the 'Revolutionary Communist Party,’ Bob Avakian’s group.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">—CGE<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">On Jan 4, 2017, at 2:11 PM, Jay <<a href="mailto:futureup2us@gmail.com">futureup2us@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Yes they are all war criminals, it comes with the job of leading a predatory empire. AND there are sharp differences among them. Trump will be a war criminal the minute he takes power, if he does, and a fascist. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">One example of both the criminality of all sides of the ruling class and differences among them: <o:p></o:p></p>
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