<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><p class="">From <<a href="https://www.jacobinmag.com/2011/01/let-them-eat-diversity" class="">https://www.jacobinmag.com/2011/01/let-them-eat-diversity</a>>:</p><p class="">...who’s for illegal immigration? As far as I know … the only people who are openly for illegal immigration
are neoliberal economists.</p><p class="">First of all, neoliberal economists are completely for open borders,
in so far as that’s possible. Friedman said years ago that, “You can’t
have a welfare state and open borders,” but of course the point of that
was “open the borders, because that’ll kill the welfare state.” There’s<a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=16508148925211743157&hl=en&as_sdt=20005&sciodt=20000" class=""> a good paper</a> you can get off the web by Gordon Hanson, commissioned by whoever runs <cite class="">Foreign Affairs</cite>,
and the argument is that illegal immigration is better than legal
immigration, because illegal immigration is extremely responsive to
market conditions.</p><p class="">So it’s quite striking that you have all this protesting against
illegal immigration, and especially at a time when it’s down. So why are
people so upset about it? They are upset about it not because it has
gotten worse, it hasn’t, but because they somehow recognize that one of
the primary sort of marks of the triumph of neoliberalism in the US is a
very high tolerance of illegal immigration, and that illegal
immigration is the kind of <i class="">ne plus ultra</i> of the labor mobility
that neoliberalism requires. I mean that’s why for years — even though
it’s a kind of contradiction in terms — as a policy it’s worked well.
The Bush administration did everything it could to talk against illegal
immigration but leave it alone and I’m sure the Obama administration
would do the same thing except its hand’s being forced by the Tea Party.</p><p class="">...Some argue that limiting immigration could help restore
the unions and that’s obviously false and I’m certainly not saying that
the Tea Party has the diagnosis right. The Tea Party thinks that
immigrants are taking away their money. It’s not immigrants who are
taking away their money; it’s neoliberalism that’s taking away their
money...</p></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 4, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Was there a count of how many people marched with the Immigration Forum? It seemed like a lot of people. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>