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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in">“And I assume the assumption you object to is that the Obama-Clinton administration (like their predecessors) were war-mongers, killing people in the Mideast and provoking Russia and China from Ukraine to
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<p class="MsoNormal">See Brzezinski’s Grand Chessboard. Obama’s Mentor on Foreign Affairs since his days at Columbia, running Obama’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Policies since the start of his Presidential Campaign. To think that I have the same Harvard PHD
as Zbig and the same Harvard Law Degree as O. That’s a Real Conspiracy.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Peace [mailto:peace-bounces@lists.chambana.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl G. Estabrook via Peace<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 2017 12:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Illyes, Robert Frank <illyes@illinois.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> peace <peace@lists.chambana.net>; Matt Murrey <mytwords@yahoo.com>; peace-discuss@anti-war.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace] events?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can you give us an example of conspiracy theory on peace-discuss, Bob?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As to that leg-biting razor, I presume you refer to the 'law of parsimony,' the principle attributed to William of Ockham (d. 1347), “entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem,” which Wikipedia interprets "as stating that among
competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected.”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And I assume the assumption you object to is that the Obama-Clinton administration (like their predecessors) were war-mongers, killing people in the Mideast and provoking Russia and China from Ukraine to the South China Sea, in order to
retard Eurasian economic integration, seen as a threat to the economic dominance of the US 1%, established by WWII and declining relatively today?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s to promote discussion of that important assumption and related matters - which the last administration did so much to hide - that AWARE (and its mailing lists) were established. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards, CGE<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.fff.org_explore-2Dfreedom_article_obamas-2Dawol-2Danti-2Dwar-2Dprotest_&d=DwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=iioab8BLQ6IJxt-3gLhYzf1aAvTbGVgzPJj9W_0ugn0&m=PznprpLKx96M4WNcdV98--EaE7CKVVkYopbzl1L_2Y4&s=X4FfKoqFvxx8yyxVGjZEbTO877q2FnpFFy-g8J0pVUs&e=">https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/obamas-awol-anti-war-protest/</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Illyes, Robert Frank via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm with Matt on this. I stopped delivery of peace-discuss because it is dominated by conspiracy theorists, who wouldn't recognize Occam's Razor if it bit them in the leg. Or to put it more simply, are gaming the rest of us who would actually
like to make the world better and ask nothing for our service- not importance, not recognition, but just peace itself. Sorry for my editorializing, I'll do no more. But I must say that it is a pleasure to hear from Matt. I hope that one of the announcements
that I will be seeing will be an invitation to a reading of his poetry.<br>
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Bob<br>
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From: Peace [<a href="mailto:peace-bounces@lists.chambana.net">peace-bounces@lists.chambana.net</a>] on behalf of Matt Murrey via Peace [<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>]<br>
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 10:35 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net">peace@lists.chambana.net</a><br>
Subject: [Peace] events?<br>
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It would be helpful for people to stop posting discussion pieces, opinions, articles, etc on this list. This list is for peace-related EVENTS and calls to action happening in the CU community. If you think an event is not politically-ideologically contributing
to peace and social justice, send a note to the manager of this list or move your concerns to the PEACE DISCUSS list.<br>
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