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Though I supported the Arab Spring initially, in hindsight I’m no longer sure they were legitimate in the beginning. In fact, just based upon my own involvement and support, I think they were part of the plan for military intervention, that like most Americans,
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<div class="">The peoples of Libya, Syria, Egypt, and Bahrain have suffered the consequences of the so called “Arab Spring Uprisings.”
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">In the beginning they were legitimate but were hijacked by the elites.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mildred O'brien [<a href="mailto:moboct1@aim.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:moboct1@aim.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Excellent article<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">WHAT "legitimate" Arab Spring revolutions? They ended up as disasterous elite power-grabs in my recollection.<br class="">
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To: 'Karen Aram' <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>>; peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>><br class="">
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The only thing I would add to it is what I have said in the recent past.</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">That opposition to the invasion of Iraq did not mean support for Saddam Hussein, and that despite the legitimate Arab Spring rebellions that happened in Syria
in 2011, that what real secular opposition to Assad that was present at that time, has been nowhere to be found since 2011. The ONLY opposition in recent times to Assad are right-wing Islamic fundamentalist groups armed by Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the U.S., UK
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the guerillas in Latin America, the Prague Spring and the East European “dissidents”, May 68, the civil rights movement, the opposition to the Vietnam war, and the nominally socialist anti-colonial movements in Africa and Asia. We also thought that the “fascist”
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were, in general, pro-capitalist and pro-imperialist, and often fanatically so, the Latin American guerrillas were a pipe dream (except in Central America) and the national liberation movements were just that: they (quite rightly) aimed at national liberation
and called themselves socialist or communist only because of the support offered to them by the Soviet Union or China. The southern European “fascist” regimes transformed themselves without offering a serious resistance, let alone an armed struggle. Many other
authoritarian regimes followed suit: in Eastern Europe, in Latin America, in Indonesia, Africa and now in part of the Arab world. Some collapsed from inside, other crumbled after a few demonstrations.</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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March 2011”, whose list of signatories includes a veritable who’s who of the Western Left. The petition claims that “The revolution in Syria is a fundamental part of the North African revolutions, yet it is also an extension of the Zapatista revolt in Mexico,
the landless movement in Brazil, the European and North American revolts against neoliberal exploitation, and an echo of Iranian, Russian and Chinese movements for freedom.”</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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Syria”. They also characterize Russia, China and Iran as standing “in support of the slaughter of people”, although they are “allegedly friends of the Arabs”; they acknowledge that “the U.S. and its Gulf allies have intervened in support of the revolutionaries”,
but blame them for “having done so with a clear cynical self-interest” and trying to “crush and subvert the uprising”. It is not clear how this squares with the next line of the text, which claims that “regional and world powers have left the Syrian people
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“with the Syrian people to emphasize the revolutionary dimension of their struggle and to prevent the geopolitical battles and proxy wars taking place in their country.” Nothing less!</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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explains why there is no Left left in the West. The same sort of thinking dominated the Western Left’s thinking during the Kosovo and the Libyan wars, and to some extent during the wars in Afghanistan (“solidarity with Afghan women”) and Iraq (“they will be
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it has resisted for so long? There have been bricmontimprelatively few defections in the army or in the diplomatic and political personnel. Given that the majority of Syrians are Sunnis and that the regime is constantly depicted as relying on the support of
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From the viewpoint of international law, the current government of Syria is legitimate and responding to its request for help is perfectly legal, while arming rebels is not. Of course, the leftists who sign the petition would probably object to that aspect
of international law, because it favors governments over insurgents. But just imagine the chaos that would be created if every Great Power was arming the rebels of its choice all over the world. One could deplore the selling of arms to “dictatorships”, but
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lukewarmly, if at all. In fact, given that U.S. used the U.N. Resolution on Libya to carry out a regime change that the resolution did not authorize, isn’t it natural that Russia and China feel that they were taken for a ride in Libya and say: “never again!”?</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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neoliberal exploitation, and an echo of Iranian, Russian and Chinese movements for freedom.”, but they are careful not to link them to the anti-imperialist governments in Latin America, since the latter stand squarely against foreign interventions and for
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the “Stalinist” regimes of the past, including those of Mao, Kim Il Sung or Pol Pot. But do they forget that Lenin fought against tsarism, Stalin against Hitler, Mao against the Kuomintang, Kim Il Sung against the Japanese and that the last two ones, as well
as Pol Pot, fought against the U.S.? If history should have thought us anything, it is that struggling against oppression does not necessarily turn you into a saint. And given that so many violent revolutions of the past have turned sour, what reason is there
to believe that the “revolution” in Syria, increasingly taken over by religious fanatics, will emerge as a shining example of freedom and democracy?</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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rebels in Syria want as many sophisticated weapons as possible- no signatory of the petition can deliver them, and it is hard to see how the “global civil society, not ineffective and manipulative governments” can do it. Those rebels want Western governments
to provide them with such weapons-they couldn’t care less what the Western Left thinks. And those Western government hardly know that the wishful thinking Left even exists. And if they did, why would they listen to people with no serious popular support, and
so no means of pressuring governments? The best proof of that is given by the cause to which so many signatories have devoted a good part of their lives: Palestine. Which Western government pays any attention to the demands of the “Palestine solidarity movement”?</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; color: rgb(29, 33, 41); letter-spacing: -0.1pt;" class="">Just because the petition has no effect in Syria does not mean that it has no effect tout court. It weakens and confuses what is left of antiwar sentiments, by stressing
that “our” priority must be empty gestures of solidarity with a rebellion that is already militarily supported by the West. Once this mindset is acquired, it becomes psychologically difficult to oppose U.S. intervention in the internal affairs of Syria, since
intervention is precisely what the revolutionaries that we must “support” want (apparently, they have not noticed, unlike the petitioners, that the West wants to “crush and subvert the uprising”). Of course, defenders of the petition will say that they don’t
“support” the more violent extremists in Syria, but who exactly are they supporting then, and how? Moreover, the false impression that the “world powers have left the Syrian people alone” (while, in fact, there is a constant flood of arms and jihadists into
Syria) comes partly from the fact that the U.S. is not foolish enough to risk a World War, given that Russia seems to mean what it says in this affair. The thought that we might be on the brink of a World War never seems to occur to the petitioners.</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; color: rgb(29, 33, 41); letter-spacing: -0.1pt;" class="">Defenders of the petition will probably say that “we” must denounce both U.S. imperialism and the oppressive regimes against which the “people” revolt. But that only
shows the depth of their delusions: why claim doing two things at once, when one is not capable of doing either, even partly?</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; color: rgb(29, 33, 41); letter-spacing: -0.1pt;" class="">If such petitions are worse than doing nothing, what should the Left do? First of all, mind its own business, which means struggling at home. This is a lot harder than
expressing a meaningless solidarity with people in faraway lands. And struggling for what? Peace through demilitarization of the West, a non-interventionist policy, and putting diplomacy, not military threats, at the center of international relations. Incidentally,
a non-interventionist policy is advocated by the libertarians and by the paleoconservative Right. This fact, plus invocation of pre-World War II history (the Spanish civil war, the Munich agreements), is constantly used by the Left to give anti-interventionism
a bad name. But this is silly: Hitler is not really being constantly resurrected, and there are no serious military threats faced by the West. In the present situation, it is a perfectly legitimate concern of American citizens to cut back the costs of Empire.</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; color: rgb(29, 33, 41); letter-spacing: -0.1pt;" class="">In fact, it would be perfectly possible to set up a broad Left-Right coalition of people opposed to militarism and interventionism. Of course, within that coalition,
people might still disagree on Gay marriage but, important as this issue may be, it should perhaps not prevent us from working together on issues that might also seem important to some people, such as World peace, the defense of the U.N. and of international
law, and the dismantling of the U.S. empire of bases. Besides, it is not unlikely that a majority of the American public could be gained to such positions if sustained and well organized campaigns were set up to persuade them.</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; color: rgb(29, 33, 41); letter-spacing: -0.1pt;" class="">But of course, the spirit of the petition goes exactly in the opposite direction, towards more U.S. involvement and interventions. Many signatories certainly think
of themselves as anti-imperialists and pro-peace, and some of them have had an important role in opposing previous U.S. wars. But they do not seem to have noticed that the tactics of imperialism have changed since the days of the national liberation movements.
Now, that decolonization is complete (with the exception of Palestine), the U.S. is attacking governments, not revolutionary movements, that are considered to be too independent. And, in order to do that, they use a variety of means that are similar in their
tactics to the revolutionary or progressive movements of the past: armed struggle, civil disobedience, government funded “N”GO’s, colored revolutions, etc.</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; color: rgb(29, 33, 41); letter-spacing: -0.1pt;" class="">The latest example of these tactics is the attempt by Western governments to use the LGBT community as ideological storm troopers against Russia and the Winter Olympics,
in a transparent effort to deflect public attention from the embarrassing fact that, in the Snowden affair, it is Russia and not the U.S. that is on the side of freedom. It is to be feared that the humanitarian interventionist Left will jump on the bandwagon
of this new crusade. Yet, as Gilad Atzmon has pointed out, with his usual slightly provocative style, it is unlikely that this will do any good to the LGBT community in Russia, since this sort of support allows their opponents to brand them as bearers of foreign
influence. It is not a good idea for any minority, anywhere in the world, to be seen as agents of a foreign power, and least of all, of a government so hated for its arrogance and its interventionism as the present U.S. administration. And incidentally, the
people who call for boycott of the Winter games in Russia had no objection to holding the Olympic games in London, which implies that, in their eyes, taking anti-gay measures is a serious crime, whereas wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are mere peccadillos.</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; color: rgb(29, 33, 41); letter-spacing: -0.1pt;" class="">People who succumb to the illusions of revolutionary romanticism or who side with the apparent underdog, regardless of the underdog’s agenda, are being taken in by
the tactics of present-day imperialism. But those who aspire to a more peaceful and more just world order, and who think that a precondition of this order is the weakening of U.S. imperialism, easily see through this camouflage. These two different world views
divide both the Left and the Right: liberal interventionists and neoconservatives on one side, libertarians, paleoconservatives and traditional leftists on the other, and it may call for new and heterodox alliances.</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; color: rgb(29, 33, 41); letter-spacing: -0.1pt;" class="">JEAN BRICMONT teaches physics at the University of Louvain in Belgium. He is author of Humanitarian Imperialism. He can be reached at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Jean.Bricmont@uclouvain.be" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Jean.Bricmont@uclouvain.be</a></span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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