<div dir="ltr">The main reason this is too weak to even risk being a self-fulfilling prophecy is that those pushing Russiagate want Trump around in order to "oppose" him. If they wanted him gone they'd switch to offenses for which there is evidence.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM, stansfield smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stansfieldsmith@yahoo.com" target="_blank">stansfieldsmith@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22412"><span></span></div><div></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22411"> </div><div class="m_-4599749311194430029signature" id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22405"><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22404"><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22409"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22407"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22403"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22446" dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)" id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22753"> The powerful and dominant forces for impeaching Trump, and the forces who have the control in Congress to do it, will impeach him for bogus Russia control, not for war-mongering, not for his racist and anti-immigrant positions. </span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22446" dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22446" dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)" id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22999">If you want to get involved in impeaching Trump, those you will be aiding are these anti-Russia neo-cons. You will not be helping the anti-war war movement, or immigrants or Blacks or women.</span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22444"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22417"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22419"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22421"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22423"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22425"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)"><br></span></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22428"><br></div></div><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22442"><br> </div></div><div class="m_-4599749311194430029qtdSeparateBR" id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22441"><br><br></div><div class="m_-4599749311194430029yahoo_quoted" id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22438" style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px" id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22437"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22436"> <div dir="ltr" id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22435"> <font id="m_-4599749311194430029yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507826717596_22434" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> David Swanson <<a href="mailto:davidcnswanson@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidcnswanson@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Karen Aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" target="_blank">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Robert Naiman <<a href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" target="_blank">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</a>><wbr>; Peace-discuss List <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.<wbr>net</a>>; ufpj-activist <<a href="mailto:ufpj-activist@lists.mayfirst.org" target="_blank">ufpj-activist@lists.mayfirst.<wbr>org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 12, 2017 10:54 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ufpj-activist] NYT: Pledge to Impeach Trump, a Key Donor Demands of Democrats<br> </font> </div> <div class="m_-4599749311194430029y_msg_container"><br><div id="m_-4599749311194430029yiv7039539306"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Here is the no-Russia-BS impeach Trump campaign: <br clear="none"></div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://rootsaction.org/" target="_blank">http://RootsAction.org</a><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="m_-4599749311194430029yiv7039539306gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="m_-4599749311194430029yiv7039539306yqt7733184749" id="m_-4599749311194430029yiv7039539306yqt00555"><div class="m_-4599749311194430029yiv7039539306gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Karen Aram <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" target="_blank">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="m_-4599749311194430029yiv7039539306gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Prof. Francis Boyle attempted to have Bush, and Cheney impeached to prevent US attacks on Iraq, but was prevented by John Podesta of the DNC, because they wanted to use the war for the next election.</div>
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<div>Prof. Boyle, again attempted impeachment of Obama for his drones and extension of our wars from two to eight. Unfortunately no one would take up the mantle for peace, against a popular Democratic President.</div>
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<div>If it’s for Russiagate, or any lesser cause, don’t do it, that will only bury the American government and its people in more trivialities.</div>
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<div>Robert, you may call me a “stupid Trot” for posting their information. I would rather be a “stupid socialist," than one who wallows in trivia and propaganda.</div>
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<div>This development could change my view. Tom Steyer is putting Trump's “seeming determination to go to war” on the marquee of his bill of charges. If that becomes central to the case, I will change my view. If Tom Steyer starts talking about ending
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