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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yeah, Ramsey worked with Doug Rokke and me to help defend Phil Berrigan and the DU Plowshares. They started out facing 40 years. After a kangaroo court
proceeding, they got 2. As I said you can read Ramsey’s book The Fire This Time that has all the findings of his International War Crimes Investigation into Bush Sr’s war against Iraq. Fab.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Champaign IL 61820 USA<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Roger Helbig [mailto:rwhelbig@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 09, 2017 3:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Boyle, Francis A <fboyle@illinois.edu>; Peace-discuss <Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Prominent Iraq/Iran warmonger Eliot Cohen speaking at UIUC November 9, 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So you actually have no facts or links to alleged facts to present - how like a lawyer who browbeats his opponents but has nothing to really back up the claims he makes. Rather doubt that then Lieutenant General Chuck Horner said his campaign
was modeled after Dresden. Where is proof of that alleged quote. Former Attorney General Ramsey Clark, sadly, has not always had his facts in order either. His writings on Depleted Uranium were way off base. I have read them. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t have time to review that book and the Commission Report. But if I remember correctly the figure was about 100,000 civilians and 100,000 military, including about 25,000 dead from the bombing campaign of Iraqi Cities which the Air
Force General in Charge of {Horner?} said would be modelled upon the bombing campaign of Dresden. fab<br>
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From: Boyle, Francis A<br>
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 12:52 PM<br>
To: 'C G Estabrook' <<a href="mailto:cgestabrook@gmail.com">cgestabrook@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>><br>
Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Prominent Iraq/Iran warmonger Eliot Cohen speaking at UIUC November 9, 2017<br>
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That 200,000 figure comes from the International War Crimes Commission Investigation conducted by Ramsey Clark. See his The Fire This Time. Fab.<br>
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From: C G Estabrook [mailto:<a href="mailto:cgestabrook@gmail.com">cgestabrook@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 12:49 PM<br>
To: Roger Helbig <<a href="mailto:rwhelbig@gmail.com">rwhelbig@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: Boyle, Francis A <<a href="mailto:fboyle@illinois.edu">fboyle@illinois.edu</a>>; Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Prominent Iraq/Iran warmonger Eliot Cohen speaking at UIUC November 9, 2017<br>
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Oh, we’re responsible for only perhaps 40,000 corpses in that war. That’s ok then.<br>
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> On Nov 5, 2017, at 4:50 AM, Roger Helbig via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> There you go - exterminate 200,000 Iraqis - US never did that and you know it. Why spread lies - does it make you feel big?<br>
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> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> And speaking of ACDIS and Kolodziej and the wars against Iraq and warmongering and NeoCons, Kolodziej tried to blackball me off of the All University Forum held in Foelinger Auditorium on the eve of Bush Sr’s War against Iraq in mid-January of 1991. Meanwhile
Kolodziej had flown in the NeoCon Warmonger Geoff Kemp to argue in favor of the war that would exterminate about 200,000 Iraqis. Bombs away once again at the warmongering University of Illinois!<br>
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> Fab.<br>
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