<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>Hear hear David Green.</div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">-Karen Medina</div><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: David Green via Peace </div><div>Date: 11/29/17 22:54 </div><div><br></div></div><div style="font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div style="font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
<div>When Obama was President, many liberals wanted to blame others (Bush) for his policies, the hand he was dealt, etc. That was wrong, and needed to be counteracted, including by noting the delight that Obama took in using the military, drone strikes, etc.<br></div><div><br></div><div>But Trump is now President, and he delights no less in the use of military force, although "only" Yemen stands as an egregious example. It may be important to counteract prevailing liberal wisdom by noting the institutional forces arrayed to influence Trump; but the alleged contrast between Trump and Obama becomes less convincing as the year moves to a close. It doesn't sound right anymore to see him as somehow opposed to or the victim of institutional forces. And it comes to seem like a double standard to have focused on Obama's personality as opposed to Trump's alleged powerlessness. It does matter that Trump is a genuinely creepy human being, although in his own way no more creepy than Obama.</div><div><br></div><div>Plus, he's the President right now, and has a lot of power.<br></div><div><br></div><div>DG<br></div>
</div><div id="yahoo_quoted_2135976074" class="yahoo_quoted">
<div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
<div>
On Wednesday, November 29, 2017, 5:32:10 PM CST, Karen Aram via Peace <peace@lists.chambana.net> wrote:
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><div id="yiv5864969504">
<div class="yiv5864969504">I’m sorry, Carl</div>
<div class="yiv5864969504"><br class="yiv5864969504" clear="none">
</div>
I don’t like it, the title alone makes AWARE look like “Trump defenders.” It’s one thing to say this in conversation when explaining our wars, to those who think the problem began with Trump, but as a title, it sucks. Most people in this town are Democrats
and won’t bother to read it.
<div class="yiv5864969504"><br class="yiv5864969504" clear="none">
</div>
<div class="yiv5864969504">I’m not pleased with some of that which is in the article either, because the focus on the election is old news. Its time to move on. Trump is President and he is responsible for that which occurs on his watch. </div>
<div class="yiv5864969504"><br class="yiv5864969504" clear="none">
</div>
<div class="yiv5864969504">Trump bombed Syria and that is an impeachable offense, granted every other President before him, committed war crimes that were also impeachable offenses, Bush and most especially Obama, but Trump has been in power for almost a year now. His provocations
of war with Korea, and Iran are extremely dangerous. </div>
<div class="yiv5864969504"><br></div></div></div>
</div>
</div></div></body></html>