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A UBI, is positive and like Single Payer Healthcare, a necessity. As long as its recognized as temporary, until we have changed the system. Changing the system should be the goal, because the UBI, like Social Security can always be whittled down and away, by
those who control the system. The same way Single Payer is valuable, but only a stepping stone to that which we should have which is “Universal Healthcare for All."
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<div class="">We don’t want to throw out the “good” for the “perfect, but we should never give up insisting upon the “perfect.”</div>
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<div class="">On Feb 13, 2018, at 16:47, David Green via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">A UBI might well incentivize both workers and employers to move more quickly to more productive robots without fear of unchosen unemployment or hyper-inflation. And there's no reason why the UBI, in an environment of moderate inflation, can't
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<div class="">On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 03:05:03 PM CST, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:
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> This is what concerns me about proposals for a guaranteed Universal Basic Income (UBI), which sounds like something I would in principle support: ~~ Ron<br clear="none" class="">
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> (( Looking specifically at the question of whether Friedman’s proposal would actually improve the conditions of the poor, Hyman A. Minsky, himself a renowned and highly regarded economist, wrote the “The Macroeconomics of a Negative Income Tax.” Minsky looks
at the outcome of a “social dividend,” which “transfers to every person alive, rich or poor, working or unemployed, young or old, a designated money income by right.” Minsky conclusively shows that such a program would “be inflationary even if budgets are
balanced” and that the “rise in prices will erode the real value of benefits to the poor … and may impose unintended real costs upon families with modest incomes.” This means that any improved spending power afforded to citizens through an instrument such
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