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An Exchange on Libya</h1>
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A letter from Gilbert Achcar on Greg Shupak's recent Libya piece.</p>
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Dear Editors,</p>
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It was brought to my attention that an article signed Greg <a href="http://jacobinmag.com/2013/09/libya-and-its-contexts/" style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: transparent; cursor: pointer; color: inherit; transition: 0.2s; -webkit-transition: 0.2s; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">Shupak</a> published
recently on the <cite style="box-sizing: border-box; background-repeat: no-repeat;" class="">Jacobin</cite>blog mentioned me as having “backed Western intervention” in Libya. A proof, if needed, that being an academic like the author doesn’t make one immune
to misreading.</p>
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Allow me please to remind the author and your readers that I have refuted this caricature of my position countless times: see in particular this <a href="http://www.newleftproject.org/index.php/site/article_comments/popular_rebellion_and_imperialist_designs1" style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: transparent; cursor: pointer; color: inherit; transition: 0.2s; -webkit-transition: 0.2s; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">interview</a> and
this <a href="http://www.newleftproject.org/index.php/site/article_comments/after_gaddafi" style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: transparent; cursor: pointer; color: inherit; transition: 0.2s; -webkit-transition: 0.2s; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">follow-up</a>.
Note in particular this comment that I made in the latter interview:</p>
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To be sure, the position I expressed was itself an unusually complex one, reflecting the intricacy of the situation. But this can’t be a sufficient explanation, let alone an excuse, for the fact that my critics were on the whole unable to represent my position
accurately, whether it was deliberate misrepresentation — for those who mistake caricature for argument — or as a result of misreading under the influence of the former. Thus, I had a first-hand experience of what Francis Bacon meant with his famous saying:
“Slander boldly, something always sticks.” Even though I never ever “supported” NATO’s intervention, several detractors immediately distorted my position into one of “support to NATO’s no-fly zone,” which translated naturally into “support to NATO intervention,”
nay, “support to imperialism” for the most overexcited, without ever producing a single relevant quote.</p>
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With best regards,</p>
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Gilbert Achcar</p>
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Dear Editors:</p>
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Over the course of an impressive career that has seen him make many important contributions to the anti-imperialist left, Gilbert Achcar has produced work that is clear and perceptive.</p>
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Unfortunately, in his letter to <cite style="box-sizing: border-box; background-repeat: no-repeat;" class="">Jacobin</cite> in response to my “Libya and Its Contexts,” Achcar demonstrates that he also has a knack for obfuscation. He insists that a quotation
be produced to demonstrate the support for NATO’s intervention in Libya that I attribute to him. Very well: Here are a few from an article he published <a href="http://mondediplo.com/openpage/libya-a-legitimate-and-necessary-debate-from-an" style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: transparent; cursor: pointer; color: inherit; transition: 0.2s; -webkit-transition: 0.2s; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><cite style="box-sizing: border-box; background-repeat: no-repeat;" class="">Le
Monde diplomatique</cite></a> in March 2011: “The program [Gaddafi’s opponents] are united on is one of democratic change — political freedoms, human rights, and free elections — exactly like all other uprisings in the region. And if there is no clarity about
what a post-Gaddafi Libya might look like . . . it can’t be worse than Gaddafi’s regime.” Or: “Can anyone claiming to belong to the left just ignore a popular movement’s plea for protection, even by means of imperialist bandit-cops, when the type of protection
requested is not one through which control over their country could be exerted? Certainly not.” Or: “What then was the alternative to the no-fly zone in the Libyan case? None is convincing.” Or: “We should . . . demand that arms be delivered openly and massively
to the insurgents.”</p>
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In his letter to <cite style="box-sizing: border-box; background-repeat: no-repeat;" class="">Jacobin</cite>, Achcar seems to insist upon a distinction between supporting a NATO-imposed no-fly zone and supporting NATO-intervention. This position cannot hold.
Imposing and enforcing a no-fly zone is not a neutral act, but an intervention in its own right. I will leave it to reader to peruse Achcar’s statements and to conclude whether these add up to support for NATO’s intervention in Libya.</p>
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Thanks,</p>
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